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Hi guys i want to ask that if a clan leader evicts a member for no reason so can the evicted player demand for the refund from the clan fee
I don't know the reply, I am sorry...
But are you really sure there is no reason for having evicted you?
As far as I know, Jedi should evict only consenting (for several different RL reasons) or long time offline players.
Any more answers
Did you ask to him? :D
2013-11-28 06:19: Received 4000 Gold from Pravin J: Loan to be returned in week Total 8000 :)
2013-11-27 20:00: Received 4000 Gold from Knight Walker: loan:total 8000
2013-11-27 19:42: Received 4000 Gold from Knight Walker: loan!
2013-11-26 15:37: Received 10000 Gold from devin_2011: Loan for a week , should be returned as 10100
2013-11-26 15:14: Received 4000 Gold from Pravin J: Loan to be returned in 5days :)
2013-11-26 13:36: Received 3000 Gold from _elf_007_: loan :)
2013-11-26 13:13: Received 4000 Gold from _elf_007_: loan :)


too much loans may have made him think that omething was wrong.
Either way, eviction from military clan without no reason is not allowed
I guest that you done nothing to the clan.. you not helping in facilities defense.. your last defense was at 2013-11-22 14:33
i dont think taking loans should be the reason i have time to rapay them
i am just a newbie, dont know much
For Sir_Hulkson
There are many players who dont participate in defences regularly like
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4802592
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4854773
There are many players who dont participate in defences regularly like
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4802592
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4854773


Then, Jedi must notice this.. try to PM him :)
Dear TS,

Do not make false accusations in the forums.

[1] You wrote and asked to be evicted - sms_id=368474406

Nowhere was evicting you mentioned by me before this mail you sent me. If yes, kindly show proof.

Do not speak half-truths and mislead the community.


[2] You have used your status as a clan member to solicitate for loans from members, and some members have also complained about you sending them many mails 'begging' for gold [which is against the rules]. You have also used clan chat to do likewise, even when told not to do it.

I could go on and talk about your transfer logs, but I won't.


You asked to be evicted, and I followed your instructions. Do not turneit around and say anything to the contrary.

Thanks.



[3]
sms_id=368475570
IN this u told me that Re entry would be free but i dont want to re enter and i asked for refund of my clan fee than u responded in a rude way.


your reply

"Read below.

Don't accuse me just cause you are desperate to get gold to feed your HOPELESS ROULETTE ADDICTION.

Why do you forcing me to blacklist and file complain against you by keep pissing me off and making false accusations and lies?

I'm at work now and don't have time to reply anymore to your ridiculous [censored] and desperate begging for gold."

can u tell me what false accusations i made and lies i told And the above msg i sent me when i asked u to refund some part of clan fee so that i can return the loans.
Player banned by moderator Arctic until 2013-12-01 12:59:19 // Forum rules, par. 2.12. It is forbidden to publish contents of private correspondence with any character on the Forum without previous public consent
the above msg i sent me when i asked u to refund some part of clan fee so that i can return the loans.
the above msg u sent me when i asked u to refund some part of clan fee so that i can return the loans.
This will be my last reply. If you are unhappy with anything, file a complain [and possibly risk the consequence].

[1] To talk about rules, it is highly recommended that you know the rules. :)

https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=6

2.12. It is forbidden to publish contents of private correspondence with any character on the Forum without previous public consent of the other correspondent.


[2] You have misled clan members as to the reason why you want/are taking those loans. You gave a variety of reasons when the main reason is to feed your roulette addiction.


[3] Clan have a right to evict any members who have suspicious logs or have done illegal/suspect transfers/transactions. Although it's not the main reason for your eviction, all clans have done such type of evictions in the past.
Well, one of you is most likely lying (and I have an idea of who it may be) but innocent until proven guilty I suppose.

That being said, perhaps you should forward your messages to members of the community so they can see exactly what was said?
That being said, perhaps you should forward your messages to members of the community so they can see exactly what was said?

2.12. It is forbidden to publish contents of private correspondence with any character on the Forum without previous public consent of the other correspondent.

for barbmaster: As far as I remember, A&D forbids its members to play roulette. After joining the clan you hence agreed to that policy and on its violation you were kicked out. Its as simple as that.
The official position about refunding entrance fees and donations to clan is given in the General rules of the game:
https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=5

Rule 3.26.1 states that if a clan leader has initiated gathering of funds to make a large purchase for the clan but has not done so, all members may claim their donations back.
Rule 3.28 states that if the leader of an MC is changed, any members may claim 100% of their entrance fees and donations made since their admittance to the clan and leave the clan after they receive them.
Rule 3.30.1 states that in process of a clan's militarization, any member's donation for that purpose may be claimed back at any moment as long as the clan has not yet been successfully militarized.

The above are the only cases where the admin team will enforce refunding. In all other cases, it is entirely between the clan leader and his/her members.
So Arctic, any clan leader can accept entrance fees and donations to his clan and later kick the member out without any reason and pocket the gold for himself (provided the gold wasn't for the above mentioned reasons)? That doesn't sound very fair - but is perfectly within the rules of the game!

Nice to know
for Lord harddude:

Where u hear or saw this rule?
:)
It is anyway a good rule :D
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