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All about Knight faction: Stats, Talent, Tactics, Strategy


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AuthorAll about Knight faction: Stats, Talent, Tactics, Strategy
IMO, lv6 is too early to start with TG...

if you still wan to go with TG, i would say make good use of escort because you have less units compare with lv7. escort could help you alot.
Hey, I just completed dark elves brigands, wohoo my first merc victory, and I was told by a fellow knight that it is bad idea to split griffons and swords. I usually split my griffons from my 10 total to 9 and 1 so that my one can go and take retal from something that is strong and then I send my 9 in to do damage and not worry bout losing more than just that one griffon if the enemy was strong enough to kill it. I still haven't raised the money to get recruits and I seldomly split my swords but sometimes I do becuase not only for same reason as with griffons,(send in a retal taker) but to also have a potential stun. I have 28 swords max and I only split it by one. I was considering splitting them into 3-1s for better def for archers. but then again archers are usually targetted so quikly so I am not sure. So as far as splitting goes of griffons and swords what is others opinions?
hi all what do u think i should take max swords or max xbow and what talents for ambushes
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split bowmen, bowmen will always move before swordsmen. for griffin, try to not split them unless you need some to block range unit. escort on griffin should enough to deal with multiple stack.

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here is a fact that all knight should know. no doubt, max xbow is good in PvP. but, it is NEVER best in ambush. as usual, swordsmen is the key and the only unit will survive to kill the rest at the end.
what happens if you protect caravan,in merc quest, and don't hand over cargo?
for Lucid-Naz:
you dont get to finish the quest
ok I read page one and two as far as what was written for recruits, my question is should I have recruit stacks if so how big or just max my archers. Right now I have 10griffon max, 28swords max, 23archers max, and 1 recruit. Buying the farmer cabin only allowed me to raise archer max.
also I just got my 5th hunter art, when is it ideal to use, wait for 9 hunter arts,merc, thief or red to !red hunts?
for 127. max griffons and sword, and take from archers to give yourself about 3-4 recruits. Then split those recruits into stacks of 1 each. recruits do have possibility of stun, plus they can be used to take the retal of a stack so your swords or griffons don't get killed.

The only time I split my griffons is when I am doing a hunt against a ranged troop, and want to keep them from killing everything before my swords get there.

Usually (especially in PvP) keep one stack of griffs one stack of swords, one stack of archers, and 3-4 stacks of 1 recruit. (There are times when you might want to split the archers into four even groups such as when doing a merc quest against elven army or vanguard, that will make the ranged elven troops waste more attacks on your archers, rather then killing them all with just one or two lucky hits)

Also, try to keep your griffens with your swords. By that I mean do not rush the griffens to the other side, they will be torn apart without much benefit. (This is especially true in PvP) Sometimes in hunts and merc quests this rule should not be followed, but generally it is a good thing to keep in mind. Instead of rushing keep the griffens with the swords as they cross, so that the griffens can take all the hits from the enemy (most people attack griffens for some reason) and the swords can do some major damaage.
I don't agree with Sungor. You should split your bowmen, rather than use 3-4 recruits: Bowmen have more life, move before swordsmen, and can deal some damage even when you don't need to take retal (shoot arrows).
haha ~ i tried wiv max Recruits and None Bowmen :) and 50 + of them deal quite lots of damage :D 100 + :D but compare to the HobGoblins it is weak :/
Normally, at Lvl 6 now i employ to split all my bows into equal stacks, obviously in PvP as any elf or range unit will tear a single stack apart.

I read with interest on the usage of Escort. I had used it for much of my Lvl 5 career and found it pretty useless (correct me if i'm wrong, its just my opinion of it). Now at lvl 6, Rally seems a better option although at the expense of any luck on me.

The part that aint so nice for us Knights is the absence of a game-changing, speed-for-the-win unit. Griffons get shreaded fast (especially against magic and elves) while Swords arent quick enough to compete in an open field although they are formidable in close combat. Bowmen, i rest my case, they arent that bad but lack the edge now as "scoobies" (as i call Succubi nowadays...lol), magi, orcs and elf bows dominate that aspect. I havent got my recruits, so i wont delve into my unknown for now. I would like to see one of the top players employ a different approach to knights for us to see but none yet i suppose.

By the way, any thoughts on the arts on a knight? I realize defense is a priority, as i lose many match-ups to knights or barbarians due to high defense they have. I emphasize alot on attack, but the only thing that seems to be a real potent threat is the Enrage on my Swords (which many a time comes to my rescue by putting to death many fringe melees or range stacks my griffs lost out on)

=)
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=475238911


just check out this battle and see how escort is usefulI read with interest on the usage of Escort. I had used it for much of my Lvl 5 career and found it pretty useless (correct me if i'm wrong, its just my opinion of it).
there are many more examples in which escort is my match winner
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=475248936
one more example of usefullness of escort
i think we must change it's name to vampire slayer.
The 150% damages is the Main Key to make the best damages .. I mean this is a good think to balance the Slow Units of Knights .. I mean the Defence and the Attack of Knights are balance .

That's why I love Knights so much .. THE BALANCE ... !
I shall say this only once :) "luck+defence+escort" is deadly combination!
If you force that you will be the winner.
I shall say this only once :) "luck+defence+escort" is deadly combination!

nope, it suppose be 'defend + morale' and support with 'escort + holy spell'

escort is good for lv5 and lv6. in PvP, as long as you are go with min AP and in late game, escort will save you day.

by the way, 50% extra dmg come with cost of 0.1 ATB. the more escort you did, the slower your hero turns come in. so, it might spoil your tactic at certain situation.

so, that's why escort isnt very good at higher level for magic knight. cause your hero should busy in casting spell to harm or support other BUT not keep escorting.

escort is needed to unlock other talent at most of time for those high level knight. they will only escort at late battle.
to Pang :
So, you personally does not advice a lvl 6 join a TGI yet ?
I would like to know if there is a way where I can see other knights previous merc battles. I fought some creatures, something thugs, (they shoot, no melee penalty and poisoning), I was gonna ask for assistance but I wondered if I could see previous battles at top hunters for knights lev5 (it was a red!) and it was sooooooooooooo helpful that I feel pretty stupid for not having looked before. So if there is a way to see previous level 5 knights who have fought a merc quest I am currently on then it would be an invaluable tool for everyone to study whenever they are stumped. Also how do you "drag" the address of fights from your combat log to here? By drag I mean you know how you can outline somebody quote and then press [q] and it shows up in light blue, how do you do that for battle addresses and post it here? Thanks to whoever answers either of my questions:)
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