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AuthorMay 21, 2011-End Of The World?
for mageof10:

What a lame answer.
Sorry son, but that isn't what the Bible said. Jesus said "when you see these things begin to take place, your redemption is NEAR."

Unc, Unc, Unc. They thought they were seeing their interpretations come true. So do you. I think you need to put your bifocals back on. So I guess your redemption is as near as theirs was.

And here we are over 400 hundred years later...

I can just imagine 30 or 40 years from now, Modi muttering to himself - "Next year it's sure to come. Or the year after. But any day now for sure."

Grunge
Unc, Unc, Unc. They thought they were seeing their interpretations come true. So do you. I think you need to put your bifocals back on. So I guess your redemption is as near as theirs was.

Yes they sure did but what did it prove? That they did not know the Bible very well.

Now by your line of reasoning, because men were wrong in the past at what they THOUGHT was correct,not by what was actually written, then the "last days" is not a correct theory.

So if the left said " there is no Assyrian Empire" and were proven wrong, that discredits them all forever.

Just like the Crusaders thought they were doing Gods work, they had no Biblical foundation to back up their deeds. It doesn't mean the Bible was wrong, it means the Crusaders were wrong.

Pretty simple no?
Yes they sure did but what did it prove?

Guess Unc is finally coming around.

Just because you interpret the Bible as predicting things that you see going on around you as coming true, doesn't mean that's what actually happening. You were making the same mistake that they were.

Don't worry it's no so hard to get a handle on. You're almost getting there.

Keep up the good work.

Grunge
you know what it all says, religion is wrong! or at least interpreted wrong.
dont believe in something and use a book (just some papers with the words of some guy, come one what did he know) to justify your actions, whether they are bad like the crusadors or worse like child abuse is current churches, or even good actions, dont hide behind a book, stand up and say this is me, this is what i did and what i should be thanked or punished for. nothing has anything to do with a greater power or whatever, it all has to do with your own free will.

Use a religion as a guide to a better life, dont blindly follow it.

just one small issue: if god created all then who created god? did he appear out of nowhere? if he did then why could the rest just appear out of nowhere?
why couldnt the rest appear out of nowehere, ie evolution
for Grunge:

No sir, I'm not. I am simply placing the written evidence of all the signs given to us. Signs that you had no idea about.

I also stated this in previous posts, that YOU can decide if the evidence points to the last days.

I'm still building my case here so you can do what you will when I am finished. Your opinion isn't important to me.

Remember, most of the world believes in a higher power and you do not so your voice is very tiny. As it should be.

Be thankful that we allow you to openly mock us if you please because the reality is that if we wanted to shut you up, you would be quite powerless to do anything about it. So you argue from a coward's position but can't see it.
Oh dear. He's regressing again.

Everyone knows if Modi had the capacity to do something nasty to someone, he'd not have a moment's hesitation.

After dozens and dozens of religious "prophecies" coming to naught, Modi still believes he knows better. Well, I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised. He knows a few tricks but they are obvious if you know where to look.

The "End of the World" is quite a way of yet. And it certainly won;t be a religious event that causes it to cease.

Have a good night Unc. I'll be by later with some warm milk. You can tuck yourself in, right?

Grunge
Oh dear. He's regressing again.

Everyone knows if Modi had the capacity to do something nasty to someone, he'd not have a moment's hesitation.

After dozens and dozens of religious "prophecies" coming to naught, Modi still believes he knows better. Well, I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised. He knows a few tricks but they are obvious if you know where to look.

The "End of the World" is quite a way of yet. And it certainly won;t be a religious event that causes it to cease.

Have a good night Unc. I'll be by later with some warm milk. You can tuck yourself in, right?


You ever been married Grunge? Have any kids? I would say, no and no, correct? Is that grown-up world too much for you to handle? Magic the Gathering a safer world for you?

Here's what I do to lefties when I want to punish them. They hate being ignored so I reel them in(like I've done to you) and then cut them off. I used to go to Politico to debate the lefties. After a couple years of dealing with the infants, I found it much more enjoyable to do drive-by posts.

I simply stop reading their posts but continue with my own. This way I am not at all compelled to waste time throwing my pearls at them, but they don't have the same willpower to stop reading mine and remained agitated.

So Grunge, you just went on my drive-by list. You have free reign to post whatever you want but I won't be reading. Why waste my time?

Lefties hate being ignored. :P
Heh! That last post was a response to my post so I guess you still aren;t quite there.

The best thing is, after feeling obliged to respond to so many of my posts to reinforce his crumbling world-view, Modi ignoring me now would just be an indicator that he is unable to cope with rational, coherent discussion with people who hold different views from him. Everyone can clearly see he hates that.

I think Modi deliberately ignoring me would be the best thing I could imagine.

My day just gets better and better.

Please ignore me Unca Modi.

Grunge
I think Modi deliberately ignoring me would be the best thing I could imagine.

that coming from you makes as much sense as someone saying "i really hate that guy, but i can't stay away from his front porch"

who're you kidding, Grunge? yourself? you love Modi :)
I sense that too syrian:)
why couldnt the rest appear out of nowehere, ie evolution

Evolution doesn't say that things appear out of nowhere. Evolution says that things are getting complexity as the time passes by.

What do you think about the universe law: Nothing is created, nothing is lost, everything is transforming.
What do you think about the universe law: Nothing is created, nothing is lost, everything is transforming.

That looks like Newton's first law ''Energy can be neither created nor destroyed. It can only change forms.''

In any process in an isolated system, the total energy remains the same.
This is a continuing study on the subject of the Last Days. What are the things we were told to look for and are they all evident today?

It doesn't matter if you agree or not. I am simply placing all the recorded signs in one place so the readers can make their own decisions.

People spend time studying the supposed Mayan prophesies,Nostradamus, Edgar Kasey, and of course the Bible. If it were not an interesting subject matter, these topics would not be so popular.

People spend time looking into UFOs and all of that realm.

Christianity conquered the mighty Roman Empire, it tamed a barbaric Europe, and spread across the globe. It is a powerful thing and it is the foundation of the West. Denying it doesn't make you right, but a fool. Notice the date today? 2011 years after what? I know it's painful to the left so they had pretend it refers to something else.

BCE? Oh how I laugh every time I see it.
Watch the anti-Israel push this summer, leading to a crescendo in September. Should be very interesting.

Well what do we have here? Looks like Modi knows what he is talking about.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/vatican-says-palestinian-state-should-soon-live-alongside-i srael-after-pope-meets-abbas/2011/06/03/AGOAp1HH_story.html



VATICAN CITY — The Vatican says a Palestinian state must “soon” live side by side in peace and security with Israel.

The Vatican issued the statement Friday after Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas met with Pope Benedict XVI and other Vatican officials.

During the meetings, the two sides discussed the need to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and recognize the “legitimate” rights of Palestinians to a homeland. The Vatican said “that soon the state of Israel and the Palestinian state must live in security, at peace with their neighbors and within internationally recognized borders.”

The Vatican has long supported a Palestinian state. The Vatican said it had to be done “soon” as the Palestinians mobilize support for recognition as an independent state in September.
No. It means your persecution complex is going in to overdrive. Pro-Palestine does not mean anti-Israel. If in 1939 I said "Germany should stop persecuting Jews" someone in Germany with a similar weird mindset of yours, that somehow the wealthy and powerful are tiny and weak compared to the left and need to defend themseves against constant attacks would say "Why are you so anti-German. After the crippling sanctions and conditions put on us after the Great War which nearly destroyed us, we have every right to defend ourselves against all enemies, within our borders and without."

In regards to the BBC guy. Interesting he comes out with that at a time when the Conservative Government is talking about cutting down his 834 000 a year salary. "Please don't cut my wage. CEOs getting incredibly over inflated salaries is a core vaue of the right. I'm with you guys". I think his personal bias is more on show their.

@279. No. You are the one who is choosing to do what is convenient. Do you call yourself a murderer when you eat some cabbage? Life in the context you mentioned is basically saying biological matter. Life in regard to abortion is complex. A line gets drawn. Some disagree where that line is. Is it at conception, 10 weeks, 20 weeks, when the foetus has the ability to live independantly of the mother? Taking the anti-abortion argument to it's logical extreme, every woman who has a period should go to jail as she's destroyed a potential life as she didn't try hard enough to get impregnated. A potential life is just a rubbish argument.
@269 No. Just as 1 human could not have put the Manhattan Project together by himself, or the large hardon collider, or the vast global network that is the church, does that mean it can't be one. My kidney can't work without the rest of it's digestive system. Does that mean my digestive system doesn't work without divine guidance? A plant's photosynthesis also has god giving it a push? A combination of all the biological parts can and does create a person.

Asking me whether I feel I have free will is irrelevant? Of course I do. I don't believe in god. I said IF God exists, free will is an illusion. You said "in God, all-knowing means he is aware of all possible historical threads that may derive from every possible choice a human beeing makes." You accept that. That's the key. You also claim god makes us. As he knows everything that will happen, he Chose to make me an atheist. His choice, not mine. I'm just following how he made me. Just to repeat. I don't believe I'm a pawn following God's sript, but explain how my logic is wrong if you do believe?

Also, I don't believe in God, so I'm not trying to absolve my actions. I don't believe in being a prick and then making it all better by confessing. What I was saying is that if he exists, this supposedly loving god, due to being all knowing and all powerful created me knowing exactly what I'd do in my life, knowing I'd go to hell due to my atheism. Why create someone who you know is going to hell? That's not loving in my book.
An example. If I made a car and through no fault of mine and it crashed and killed somebody, obviously I'd not be held responsible. If, on the other hand I made this car knowing it would kill somebody, I could easily fix the car but chose not to, then I would be responsible. God is that car maker.
who're you kidding, Grunge? yourself? you love Modi :)

You've kinda got it the wrong way 'round there Syrian. Modi devotes a large portion of his personal info and clan pages in attempts to insult me and Fishy.

If he was really ignoring me he'd not have any such stuff there.

Modi's real focus is to aggravate and attack any and all that don;t agree with his fanatical views. As we've seen, however, his views don;t extend to obeying the scripture he believes to be so "prophetic" and "divinely inspired".

Turn the other cheek? Modi? That's the biggest joke I've ever heard. How long did that last again? Can you say hypocrite boys and girls?

Grunge
My kidney can't work without the rest of it's digestive system.

so... you are your kidney? is your kidney you? if they remove it, will you die? where are you, in that body of yours? i get it, that you think your kidney is accountable for your spirit. allow me to disagree. it's responsible for your body staying alive. which are two very different things. your body: not your spirit.

do read this so you know what i'm talking about (not necessarily a religious problem):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind-body_dichotomy

As he knows everything that will happen, he Chose to make me an atheist. His choice, not mine.

for someone who doesn't believe in him, you sure know a lot of how He works. i guess if i had created such a poor concept of God, i wouldn't believe in him either. your god seems like an idiot, i'm glad you don't believe in him.

Why create someone who you know is going to hell?

again you're all over the place. you missed the part where He created you as FREE. figure out what would involve creating, from yourself, a free spirit. imagine what that beeing could not know, in order not to be forced to accept something - to be truly free. imagine. you can do it, Fishy, just try a little harder
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