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AuthorFlooders Tenthouse
I don't think necro is so great in the hard hunts where it's not quite hard enough yo wear full AP, since the bows run out of arrows quite quickly.
for Meshy:
with bb set the ske.bow (2-3 damage, 12 arrows) become significantly stronger than it used to be, while the vampire-core build has no arrow problem at all.
for Meshy:
Look at hunts of this guy:
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=1295087

He is probably my favourite hunter ^^
Anyone following LoL word championship?
I don't play LoL btw, just watched it on youtube and thought it was cool xD
I kinda get now why ppl say the graphics in this game is too old lol (pun intended).
Player banned by moderator Meshy until 2017-10-07 15:07:47 // LR 1 // 1. Never discuss ANY other online games or projects, with the only exceptions being Lineage, World of Warcraft and Dota 2
Hmm I'm curious why are Lineage, World of Warcraft and Dota 2 exceptions to this rule? :O
Big games in Russia I guess
Hmm, pretty sure the one I mentioned is bigger by now...
LoL bigger than Dota or WoW?

Biggest joke of century -.-
Hmm, pretty sure the one I mentioned is bigger by now...


Keep in mind these rules were written a few years ago.
Idk I don't play any of those :P
But by comparing the traffic of dota and the one I mentioned:
https://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/leagueoflegends.com/
https://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/dota2.com/

Dota has about 9 times fewer estimated visits per day...
for Meshy:
Yeah I know, that's why I said "now" ^^

On a side note you don't need to ban for every single little rule on a thread like flooder's tenthouse you know :P That rule was clearly made to prevent bots or other people from advertising other games competing with lwm. Mentioning LoL quite certainly doesn't harm this game and nor does it offend any of the players, so I don't see why this rule really needs to be implemented in this case, especially in a thread like this.

You know, it's the old debate of whether rules should be followed blindly or whether it's fine to make exceptions, both have pros and cons I guess. But still, I am not devastated by a tiny ban :P I understand you did that to make me aware of that rule, but it's just that I would appreciate it if you could relax a bit more regarding vague out of date rules on FT ^^ Of course offensive posts and stuff like that should be banned, but maybe not stuff like the ban I got, or someone having a long string which doesn't really make reading harder.

Just my opinion though ;) I hope I didn't sound rude by mentioning this Meshy :)
Mentioning LoL quite certainly doesn't harm this game

And I'll mention another game someone will mention another game and we will all mention another game, if you get the picture. :D

I think that .ru forums are alive exactly because they do follow the rules, it's the only way to keep order especially where there are people from different cultures ages genders etc.
You won't see annoying and people who post just for the post to have it clean there when they triumph here. Not that appealing I would say.
Well it was just my opinion ;)
Flooding threads here have been around for years and years with less serious rule implementation and nothing disastrous ever happened. Not to mention that back then forums were more active anyway. On that note I also think perhaps comparing .ru and .com forums isn't the best comparison simply due to the immense difference in activity.

And I'll mention another game someone will mention another game and we will all mention another game, if you get the picture.

Also about that, I doubt even that will make any difference as long as no one does it for the sake of advertisement or spreading malicious links. It doesn't really harm anyone clearly. I don't see the difference between talking about games here and talking about music, movies, sports, etc. The latter is perfectly fine for some reason but the former is not.
It doesn't really harm anyone clearly.

You are absolutely right about that but. :D

This game and forum have rules, like them or not they have those rules to follow. That's the deal to play this game.
"You" may not follow them if you like but you can get banned blocked etc so it's up to "you", rules where there when "you" joined.

with less serious rule implementation and nothing disastrous ever happened.

I am not so sure about that, I for example got that close to quit because of this thread. Like I told before
where there are people from different cultures ages genders etc.
you can't absolutely know what impact "your" words have, especially when someone is not at a mature state to even realize those things. :)
1.5. Moderator's actions can be disputed by putting in an application to the game Secretary (thread link and detailed description of the application cause required).

Feel free to send a mail to secretary if you think any rules are out of date, I wish you luck on that, genuinely I do.

There are plenty of rules that I'm sure people disagree with, or think are silly / outdated (on this forum... won't get into the real world!)

You should try and see it from my point of view.

1) I am paid by the empire to fulfill the role of enforcing the rules.
2) You are not being harmed in any real way by my bans (therefore no ethical reason not to ban you)
3) If I relaxed here, and not against someone else, I then open myself up to "oh he's being biased and not doing his job properly"

I think some of the admins thinking, is if a person discusses a game quite passionately here, it might cause others to leave (which is actually how I joined this game).


Just because the rules don't look reasonable to you, doesn't give you an excuse not to follow them. It's part of life, maybe you'll learn one day when you become a real boy. :P
It's like you are going for a visit to the cola factory with a pepsi in your hand. :D
It's part of life, maybe you'll learn one day when you become a real boy. :P

Haha I wish I ever become one, for now I'm sticking to being a fake girl :P

1.5. Moderator's actions can be disputed by putting in an application to the game Secretary (thread link and detailed description of the application cause required).


Again, you are taking things too seriously. It was a friendly suggestion not a complaint.

But I don't really understand your point of view fully.

1) From what I know, it's just an automated program transferring you 50k for a month of forum moderating is it not? I really don't see any reason to be thankful about it. 50k a month even for me isn't anything significant, so I am sure you don't do it for the gold, but to help make the forums a better place, so why even bring this up?

2) Well depends on what you mean by harm. Let me clarify something, I have been talking about banning for little things in a flood forum in general, not specifically my post. Now about that, from my perspective implementing every tiny rule clearly makes this place much more serious for no reason. For example, who cares if someone long strings a symbol four times? So yes, in that case this does harm the mood of this thread. The big picture of forum moderating is to make the forums a better place, and their are rules, or guidelines to do so. You have to understand, any generalized rule is never, simply never perfect. Generalization is common because of how easy it is to be implemented, not how effective it is on a case by case basis. In this case, I would argue the opposite, there is really no significant reason to ban me (again, I'm not talking about my case, I mean in general). For many things one should as why should one do it rather than why should one not do it.

3) If you ban someone posting malicious links or swearing vulgarly in GG forums, I doubt they are gonna complain if you don't ban someone for finishing a sentence with four exclamation points. I understand that you are trying to generalize but still I'm not sure if it's a good comparison.

I think some of the admins thinking, is if a person discusses a game quite passionately here, it might cause others to leave (which is actually how I joined this game).


Again then, why are there exceptions to this? As I mentioned earlier, this rule had a specific meaning which got lost in generalization. But as I have mentioned, in this case it makes no difference.

And again your last sentence is a classic debate with no right answer... the mirror of which will be:

Just because the rules are made for you doesn't give you an excuse to unquestioningly abide by them. It's part of life, maybe you'll one day when you become a fake girl. :P


Moral of the story: I have too much free time xD
But seriously though, I hope Meshy you were not offended by this, it really isn't a big deal... it's a game after all, do what you want to ^^
1. It's not an automated system, I believe someone has to do it on the other end. I don't bring it up because it's a significant amount of money, but because it is a matter of, if someone is paying you to do a job, then you should do it properly and to their expectations

2. By harm I mean making you cry. :P

3. I was not talking about minor issues vs. Major issues, but minor issues vs. Minor issues. A redundant character violation here should be treated the same as elsewhere in my opinion (and in accordance to the rules)

And don't worry, I'm not offended, nothing someone all the way on the other side of the world can say / do will offend me, I've been on the internet for way too long for that. :)
2. By harm I mean making you cry. :P

#Savage xD
Oh darn that's a Twitter reference, bannn!!! (Ok just avoided long string, phew!) xD

And don't worry, I'm not offended, nothing someone all the way on the other side of the world can say / do will offend me, I've been on the internet for way too long for that. :)

Alright that's great, I have met many people both online and irl who get offended very easily so I'm glad you didn't mind ^^
We don't make the rules we just enforce them. ;)

There are quite a few local forum rules on the .com Server that I don't necessarily agree should be here - They were introduced after the merge to bring the forum rules in line with the Russian rules. That's beside the point, rules are still rules.

I think we tend to ban for less amount of time than our Russian counterparts. We try to keep a fine balance between maintaining the rules and wanting players to remain active in the forums. We could invite some of the Russian mods to moderate our forums, 1 minute might look just rosy.
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