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AuthorAdmins and Players Integration
Guys I create this forum because I currently find something really bad in this game ... I have been playing this game for almost 6 years but now I find it really anoying, And i thought why i fell anoyed and just found the reason why ... and I hereby I post this forum as an suggestion for admins ,moderators and also players.

Before when I started playing this game it was really fun as we used to chat, use forum to discuss about things etc... and there were good connection between the Mods and players. but now a days there is no connection between players and Mods. And I see that this game is becoming a prison what ever a player do they are warned, banned or blocked...

I gone through the rules of games especilly the Forum rule, The game gives powers to the Mods to ban players in all direction but that doesn't mean u must go on banning players or closing forum,the powers must be used only when u find the forum really bad, players are not dirts we play this game as we are so much attached to it I heared many mods say that if u dont wish to play why do u play ? the anwer is we actually wish to play this game But u guys are not allowing us ... And some mods are really rude that they dont even hear to our explanations they just add us to black list. And am sure an moderator is currently reading this and thinking in mind " who the hell is this guy, and what power does he have to suggest us" guys remember u are also a player not God , please remember u r just a player with powers, With power comes responsibility not rudeness... Its like the the mods are the kings and the players are servants the players have to do only what the Mod thinks to be done . If so atleast give us the power to vote our admins and mods.

And before finishing I would like to tell why I had to say u all these things ... I am a player of this game and I have all powers to say what I feel about it in the Forum Because forum is a place where people can share, before I used to play a game named travian and I once send a message to its Empire accusing about some prob in the game and I got a reply from him stating that " Sry sir we are really sad that u were not satisfied about our game, we would soon try to Improve it" But if I do the same here I will be kicked out of the game and banned ... telling that we are accusing it, Please understand we are players of this game we have the power to accuse, its just like a father accusing his son... its good for a son to hear to what a father tells if he doesn't wish to hear he should just leaveit though the other Ear ... But wat u guys are Actually doin is u are killing(Block) the Father(player) just because we accuse for ur good ... I post this forum just becoz I care about the game and something terrible is goin wrong in it... not because I hate the game and wish to do some horrible things to it... and i know this forum is not goin to change anything but I have to share what i find wrong to the people, and all I recommend is please be Polite to us and also plz treat us with respect we are also honb'le persons who needs respects, Not beggers. And I am sure I am uptobe kicked for creating this forum but before doin So just remember This is a forum and this is Ideas and suggestions page ... Ideas and suggestion topic means that I can post anything which I find wrong in this Game and I have all rights to suggest what i need the game admins to improve and u have no right to stop me from suggesting and I suggest u plz dont close this forum. Negative posts are also important for a game ... And if I am wrong please reply us gently and politely dont treat us like dirt. And I Guess no one is goin to ban me as this is a Suggestion Topic and this is a Suggestion Negative or positive , Its a suggestion ...

It would be good if there were good integration between the players and Admins...
[Post deleted by moderator Arcanide // /]
Player banned by moderator Arcanide until 2015-04-01 20:59:45 // Abuse of capitalization, redundant letters, words or symbols.
April's fool?

First off, be more objetive, it's a huge pain to read something repetitive like this to explain your fellings about something, instead of pointing facts or proof.
To not mention if you disagree with someone behavior or think they're not doing their task properly you should report to secretary, open a thread to whine about, it's complety pointless and childish.

I've talk with some mods, some really does follow rules a 'little to harsh,' and some times may also go against the rules and 'abuse their powers,' but so far, I seems to happen with new mods which are starting to know how things work.
There's no much to talk about this matter, of course nobody is perfect, and humans may fail some times. Personal opinion does not count as well or complaim about something because goes against personal advantages, when it's cleary against the rules, is just insanity, there's a reason why rules exist, to keep order and things working.

Anyways...
you should report to secretary, open a thread to whine about, it's complety pointless and childish.


Dude i have talked about this to this in PM to the Admin long before and my A/c was blocked saying I am abusing the game... :( so what do u think I should do :( I dont dont even think the admin read it comletly :( that too i recommended much politly than this ...
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=2330778
Example of moderators being dictators...a small one and may not be as important as the discussion but this just shows the dominance of few special people in the game who do not want to listen...
Just saying either be a democracy in the game or make the game open to public expression because tyranny has to end one day...sooner the better
I hardly see how it may be tyranny in any circumstance nor level, he just spoke the true. Not all ideas are valid and legit to be aproved. Just take a look on how many ideas are really aproved on this thread, even the ones with likes, besides closing a thread is a pretty rare thing to happen, it only occur when something it's totally off the subject.

I'll tell you what one mod once told me. Basically there's some one in charge to choose the best and most relevant idea to send to admin, which means the pirate idea, closed or not, will just be purely in vain. It's not it's not a good idea or something, but must be put more thinking effort into it, instead of just throwing things that cannot be made.

Take a look on this game history, this takes a heavly influence from HoMM series, going on assassin creeds or whatever stuff, it's not something that will happen without a very good explanation, which the topic just haven't. The OP just said "why we don't take this event and make a guild?" As any question there's a answer for that, besides we already have a thief guild, which basically does the exactly same thing, thievery. Let me ask, aren't you taking this close and personal, because it goes against your personal desires and preferences, even if it goes against what is best for the game or it's lore? I mean, putting 2 thief guilds without any reason it's not only stupid, but also it's not admins will or do you think he was the only person in the world to come with this idea? Like admins are freaking morons who does things randomly? Of course this is something that was refused, otherwise they should've implemented it already, and still you think your opinion is more relevant than admins, moderator or anybody how disagree?

Aren't you the tyrannt one in here? Which must have the final veredict about everything, and everything what you say must be golden and everyone else is stupid and wrong? By all ends your argument contradicts it self...
In response to the original post:

This community may be small, but it is managed by an even smaller amount of people (moderators), especially when it comes to the Complaints and Applications section, which I assume you're mainly referring to when it comes to rudeness. The game is further managed by an even smaller amount of people (in regards to the administrators) who don't speak the best English, especially since the departure of Arctic. This is obviously a very frustrating situation for everyone involved, and every now and then a decision gets made that the community doesn't agree with.

However, we're all human, people do make mistakes and the moderators certainly don't hate the players. Every time a mistake is made and somebody points it out (via pm to a relevant moderator), a discussion happens to avoid these things happening in the future. You would probably be surprised by how often these discussions happen behind the scenes, and how willing moderators would be willing to have a (private) discussion about the matter if you approach them politely. Keep in mind that just because you don't receive a response from Secretary doesn't mean your voice isn't reaching the admins.

If you want to discuss particular issues you can always message a moderator (myself included), and you can rest assured the issue will be escalated and discussed.

In response to post 5:

That topic wouldn't have been closed if it was a bit more detailed. It isn't much different to making a topic saying "We should have a robot faction. I don't know what stats or creatures it should have, but make it happen!".

The moderator in question there used their discretion well (at least in my opinion). The cleaner the I&S section is kept, the better chance the administrators will listen to it, which is what I'm sure we'd all like. It isn't a matter of a person in power stomping on someone not in power, it's about keeping the forum tidy. No bans were given, and the closure was well justified.

However, the rules are subject to a certain degree of discretion. What may be flooding in a topic to one person may not be flooding to another. What may be an insult to one person may not be insulting to somebody else. If you believe there is a major mistake made, sending a private message to explain your side might actually make a difference.
Solutions to problems are too late posting in any of sections under
Justice and Technical Problems
There is no justification for It for a long time and the one who posted is forced to forget about it after looking everyday for it where he only gets is posts from other players no improvements to answer to any bug or problem
The Ideas and Suggestions is just been there to read and +1
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=2106599&page=0

Consider this post
See how many +1's
Any response from admins ? Its 2 years waiting !
The Players are bad at co-operating
But this my friend PravinJ raised right issue
Just see that post
Even after getting so many +1's if its bad at least some response
Players should then not even post in Ideas if they are just for been there to read and +1
It would be good if there were good integration between the players and Admins...

Sorry but this is a Russian game, so most of the players are Russians. And do keep in mind that most of the people who donate are also Russian.
Naturally, most of the admins are Russian, so there is literally no point in complaining that there is too little interactions among admins and players. I am sure we all know the problems with language barrier.
Secondly, do keep in mind that although admins(i mean mods and sages here) are paid monthly salary(.commies now don't since arctic resigns), they are paid in game money.They have real life too..So you can't expect them to spend every second of their life on this game. If their salaries are real money, then it is a different issue altogether.
In regarding to the questions why good suggestions do not get implemented by admins, again it is the language barrier. I am sure you know how bad is Google translator..
Just enjoy the game. If you are unhappy with the actions taken by forum moderators, you can always avoid forum. Or avoid doing anything that may get you banned or post deleted.
But i do have to say that the idea sounds promising although a little but impossible
Well then the game will obviously fall down where russians are given domination
they have announcements before
they have more benefits
they have interaction with their admins
And we have just sh*t
If the moderators can not perform their actions correctly then there should be new. There are more devoted people to game
for Optimus Prime:
I do not mean to offense anyone with my comments but
Is there a moment when life is fair? NO!!
Just live with it
The Ideas and Suggestions is just been there to read and +1
Yes thats the truth.
The point is Admins dont know english , and it is highly unlikely that they will go on translating each and every page of ideas.
So in short , idea and suggestion branch here is just pointless. If you really want your idea to be implement , get that translated and post in .ru.

And about the original idea , yes i partially agree.
Dominance of mods is just.. and some mods think that they are something above 'normal player' and abuses their power.
The thing is , mods are subjected only to control forum not to dominate players by abusing their power. I won't take anyone's name , but still.


If so atleast give us the power to vote our admins and mods.
Agree.
+1
Voting for mods should be done.
there is too little interactions among admins and players
Not true, arctic has been a very good friend of mine, he is not at all moved away with his powers
Admins dont know english
They must know, if they didn't how could they program the codes which are in English?
Admins dont know english
Its just stupid
If not they should employ ones who can at least speak good English !
And Yes Arctic made this game right
After Arctic game has been a lot bad
They must know, if they didn't how could they program the codes which are in English?
Omg lol. Really??
They hire technicians , hire graphic designers etc.

If they knew English , why they would have given job of translation to 'l_e_s_s_e_n_a' and Arctic before? They simply could have published news by own , AS they do it by own for .ru. Common sense.
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