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| Author | www.lordswm.com are second class citizens!!! |
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what do you mean by we are "second class citizens!!!" ???
i play this game for fun.
i play this game for free.
i enjoy the varied features this game offers.
the game is very well designed although many people say ru server is better and has longer history.
this game might not be perfect but definitely deserves our enjoying. otherwise, no one plays it. | what do you mean by we are "second class citizens!!!" ???
i play this game for fun.
i play this game for free.
i enjoy the varied features this game offers.
the game is very well designed although many people say ru server is better and has longer history.
this game might not be perfect but definitely deserves our enjoying. otherwise, no one plays it.
Absolutely true! Expecially al level 4 with 152 battles done.
I sincerely hope you don't feel the need of admins and sweepers even when you have done more than 3k battles. There are players who can, others that can't. | Saying, "No, I think the game is fine without additional improvement" is disagreement. Calling someone a nagger and complainer is not.
And then she went on to use another offensive word "pampering", like we "naggers" are children. Sorry, but I can't think of a better word to describe that than "buffoonish".
Gyver was asking for it by using a topic title like that. He was reaping what he has sown. Weird how you got defensive all of a sudden.
I was already frustrated with the lack of progress on this server, and glad that someone posted a thread voicing it much better than I could. And then come along these people who not just think that everything is fine, but also that everyone who thinks otherwise is "nagging and complaing". What does that "accomplish"? Never mind that when the government (aka Admins) gives us running water and electricity, the "non-whiners" who think that anything beyond well water and wood stove is too luxurious will benefit as well.
Let us enumerate what Gyver mentioned in the original post...
Lack of tier 7 creatures? We have it here already.
Lack of unit upgrades? If the Russians have unit upgrade at level 13, then we're in trouble. Our highest unit upgrade can be taken at level 12.
Lack of artifacts? I'd like to see the list of artifacts available to Russian players that aren't available here. More importantly, I'd like to know if I can wear it when I get to the next level.
Smaller map? Honestly, that's one "improvement" that I do not want here. That would mean longer travel time for quests and sparser population density needed for thieving.
When people try to push for improvement by voicing their discontent, even if you think they are asking for too much, you'd be wise not to shoot them down with words like "nagging" and "complaining". Progress might come along faster due to people like them.
It's not enough to voice your discontent. You have to choose your words carefully. Fact: this game already has a lot of things going for it. I believe that it's already pretty solid even without further improvements. If a new player visits the forum and see all the bitching and whining in it, they might get discouraged and just quit. Which would be a shame because I feel that this is the best free online game I've played in years. | for CKyHC:
They have 11-13k online,now is summer, and peoples going on the holidays in .ru. in war cnom armis 14-15k) | Smaller map? Honestly, that's one "improvement" that I do not want here. That would mean longer travel time for quests and sparser population density needed for thieving.
Very good point of view. Judging by the numbers, also, it would mean more mines and facilities, and that would really mess up the economical part of the game at the moment. | Just learned that one of our top players left because he felt he was being treated like a second class citizen: Kiaune...
Those who still doubt this, please check his biography.
So I am still complaining or is there really a problem with OUR DEAD server??? | So I am still complaining or is there really a problem with OUR DEAD server???
there is a problem with u not the server. if u don't like it then don't play. | Lack of artifacts? I'd like to see the list of artifacts available to Russian players that aren't available here.
For fairness in the argument, I'll put up the list of artifacts on RU that is not on COM:
Heavy mithril coif
Required level: 11
Durability: 70
Ammunition Points: 5
Modifiers:
Def +4
Gives extra +5% protection from magic.
Magician's Robes
Required level: 11
Durability: 70
Ammunition Points: 7
Modifiers:
Def+ 4 SP+2
Composite bow
Required level: 11
Durability: 55
Ammunition Points: 5
Increases Ranged damage by 15%
Is worn on the back.
Heavy Mithril boots
Required level: 11
Durability: 65
Ammunition Points: 6
Modifiers:
Def +5
Gives extra +5% protection from magic.
Bottle of Ale
Required level: 3
Durability: 1
Modifiers:
Initiative +1%
Description:
Holiday energy drink, lifts the mood for two hours, but Morale drops by 10%. More than three bottle cannot be used at one time.
Silver partisan
Required Level: 5
Durability: 40
Ammunition Points: 2
Modifiers:
Att + 4 Initiative +2%
Sapozhki temptress
Required Level: 5
Durability: 50
Ammunition Points: 6
Modifiers:
Def +3 Initiative +3%
Artifact is designed for female characters.
Defender Cuirass
Required Level: 7
Durability: 50
Ammunition Points: 4
Modifiers:
Def+4 Initiative +1%
For male characters.
Armor of grace
Required Level: 7
Durability: 50
Ammunition Points: 6
Modifiers:
Def +3 Initiative +3%
Artifact is designed for female characters.
And couple more bouquets
So I am still complaining or is there really a problem with OUR DEAD server???
In my opinion, this server complains too much and that's why they don't care about us. We don't appreciate them or encourage them, why shoudl they be nice to us? | To 87:
So our top players are leaving and this does not make you wonder? People who voice their concerns ARE the problem? So you are one of those who believe OUR server is in GREAT health and does not need further improvement?
To 88:
"they dont care about us"... So in your opinion the administrators and developers dO NOT care about us??? So am I right then to say we are second class citizens?
Also, for them to know we "dont appreciate or encourage them", they actually have to check on us and read the forum... Do you believe they do that and communicate??? Wher eare the developers announcement BTW???
Dead server... | | Guys really why do u bicker about this stuff if u dont like this game then leave and if u want better crap then go to the russian server this is really pointless the admins are here to make the game fun and they update it atleast so atleast be grateful and if u dont have anything good to say then keep it to yourself no ones wants to really hear this BS......... | for Gyver:
I'm normally pretty calm about such 'whining' in forums, but you don't seem to stop...
Say it once, air all your grievances, let it all out, and then... stop, will ya?
IF, like you said, no one cares or bothers about this site, and you already KNOW many before you have started threads like this, and in your opinion, nothing is done, then WHY start another?
What new points and opinion have you stated that has not been already said by someone else?
Like many have suggested to you - Either you say something that has not been said a zillion times before, or state your 'unhappiness' over how this site is run, ONCE or like the impression you are giving all of us, that this site is beyond hope, and we are treated like 'second class citizens', then don't play anymore. Leave.
Look, no one is forcing you to play. If you want to play, we will all welcome you. If you want to post your opinion in the forums, most of us will also welcome it. But to go on.. and on.. and on.. and punctuating almost every sentences with countless question marks is just... not cool.
I'm writing this coz I don't even understand what u are trying to achieve. You said (your personal assumption and opinion, I might add) we are 2nd class citizens, that no cares or bother about us, that this sites is going nowhere, etc etc.. so if YOU don't foresee anything being done, is so pessimistic, and that no one will hear you, WHY are u rebuking everyone and anyone who posted an opinion that differs from yours?
Seriously, if I'm so dissatisfied and disillusioned about something, I wouldn't be bothered wasting my time trying to change something, which in your opinion, won't change.
I would just leave.
**My last post in this thread. | To 90:
I like playing Heroes of Might and Magic (you know THE GAME lordswm is BASED on!!!). However, there are some novel concepts (like 3v3) and probably why lordswm did not get sued... so i will be here for a while until I quit due to server stagnation (like our top players).
SO you telling me to leave if i dont like what im seeing in lordswm.com??? Using the same BACKWARD concept, I can also TELL YOU to leave since you dont like what Im writing in the forum and go play in the Russian server. See how lame your reasoning is??? And its not like Im voicing out empty concerns... If you read the whole thread, i put forward solid facts and evidences why I feel we are being treated like second class citizens...
Nobody has yet to address these questions/concerns and guess what I dont expect to since the developers and admins dont care... | For all the whiners and people with neverending complaints, please be a little more patient. I feel the same way as you do too, but it is no use complaining. Changes won't happen because of your complaints.
Updates will definitely come, and as such we have to be patient. Making threads like this also contributes to the server's current cicumstances by discouraging other (and newer) players.
Just calm down, play the game like the entertainment it is (not a fulltime job) and treat any updates like a surprise bonus. | I think they could simply do the modifications here, since they EXISTS and WORKS. Maybe the map could be the same since we have less players online and it is better for thieving for example.
Yes, I feel neglected, cause it shows that they dont care about the .com, and cmon man, IT IS A .COM! If they improve it, i think it could get much more players than .ru
If you say that we can create acc on .ru, i think you dont tried to read russian yet. I dont found any translation on the page to english or such. Even spanish could be easier.
MODIFICATIONS NOW!
If the admins are russian and like their server more than this one, they can get people to work on this one and make things go better here too..
Thank | ^^ To 93: Yeah, i know some ppl who think LWM is like their job :p
This server definitely needs more updates but there's plenty to do than just waiting or whining about it. Even the greatest game will feel like a crap if you treat it like one.
>>> For our pleasure, just let admins do their jobs, they have limitations.
Smthng i like from LWM, it let me decide when i want to play and for how long :)
It's really up to you, you can decrease your playing time and do something else like to become a moderator etc, keep complaining and whining, leave the game forever or just take some time off from LWM and enjoy yourself. If you still like it then find your own way to enjoy it, otherwise don't waste any second here. It's your time, your decision. | If .ru did not exist. just pretend that this was the first, lords game. would you be complaining? no probably not. just like when we were children (and it seems some here still are, and this is no problem) if you had a decent bike and no one else you knew even had one, would you ask for a better one. no. but now if everyone else you knew had a much better bike then you, you would ask for a better one because you were too young to realize the relativity of things.
stop worrying about .ru. If you like what they have there, then go there. this site has less people. less users=less need for dedication.
if you want this site to move along quicker do something about it other than saying the same thing over and over. go out and find as many people as you can to play this game. start plastering the name all over the internet to get people to see it. if this place starts booming with users, trust me this site would start moving rather quickly. | | More and more players complain this game. This serve will be end soon. | So our top players are leaving and this does not make you wonder? People who voice their concerns ARE the problem? So you are one of those who believe OUR server is in GREAT health and does not need further improvement?
Let me tell you about another top player named egorovy. He played here instead of the Russian server because he didn't like what was going on over there. When this server finally caught up to the "improvements" on the Russian server, he quit. Top players leaving is nothing. It's a none issue. So they spent more time playing than the rest of us. Does that make them the ultimate judge of how good or bad this game is? Hell, no. | to 96:
You misunderstood my MAIN reason why I am posting here. People think I am trying to blame or push the developers to give us the latest .ru updates. But what I actually want to know is the reason why there is such difference between servers.
I like your bike analogy… it shows how person A does not envy person B (who has a better bike) until person A knows about it… you call this childish but countries go at war for that reason… So my question is WHY is there a difference between person A and B??? so that they don’t envy and fight each other.
Let me show you my ‘bike’ version: Brother A and brother B each receive a bike from their parent. However, brother A’s bike is much more sophisticated and brother B wonders why…. WHY their parent (who are suppose to treat them EQUALLY) demonstrated such OBVIOUS difference… SO I am interested in THIS WHY… was it favouritism, does the parents treat brother A better because brother B was an adopted child, was brother B being naughty and the parent trying to punish him… SOMETHING like that…
Why does the developers (parents) treating their children (.com and .ru) SO OBVIOUSLY different???
So far, players hypothesised its because of our age and number of members. I believe THAT is BS… but then we will never know BECAUSE THEY DO NOT communicate… | can u just ppl see that the ones asking for updates dont do that because they dont like this game, but because they LOVE it?? we cant just sit up and see how this game is ruined and we cant stand to spread our word!!! we r not part of the problem, but part of the solution!!!!
form my POV, ppl who says its all ok and use the typical argument "if u dont like it, go away" r the one who doesnt care about the game, since the lack of upadtes is OBVIOUSLY the reason of many top (and not so top) player to leave. U dont care about this server starving, instead of growing??
btw, the main reason of complaining, as Gyver points above, is not lack of updates, but lack of COMUNICATION. do u want to players take the initiative and make the game grow?? GREAT!!! do u know want to know how many time i have been waiting (and still wait...) for an aproval of a tourney?? (which IMHO, if is a way of doin different things for ppl and make this game gain in atractive??)...
some excuses here make me laugh for not cry... |
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