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Wurmtog says:
kotrin drop it they won't understand :)
Indeed, this thread is going nowhere.
That's perhaps my fault - accepting to discuss the matter openly only leads to more rage and hate, accusations of dictatorship and little understanding... Why bother?
By chance, we have an "appeal court" here. I suggest everyone disagreeing with this ruling to write their indignation to Secretary.
https://www.lordswm.com/sms-create.php?mailto=Secretary
Oooh, I already hear the claim of people yelling Secretary never does anything.
1. It's wrong, Secretary's inbox is actually read by admins.
2. Admins are here, more frequently than you think. Do you think Yellow Lake sulfur mine replenishes by magic?
3. It's the legal route for complaints about moderation, keepers and game rules. It would be too bad for people invoking game rules at every breath not to follow the legal path, isn't it?
Let admins decide. If they disagree with my judgment and remove me from #373 I'll happily be relieved from my duties. Some of you will continue their little battle tricks freely. Win-win for everyone!
Have fun, and bye. I won't write here again. | 57
"No one's creating anything -_- Do you really think lining up your units for you attacker to get easy kill is not throwing away a battle? And if you think intentional throwing of battle isn't against rules, then you need to read the Keeper's clan (which by the way has been for several weeks so there's no excuse not to have read it)."
Why i need to read it? How newcomers will know that they need to read it? We have rules, we use them to play correct, why we must to search for additional rules anywhere? Where in rules i can see point that i must to read info of keepers clan? | | I repeat for keepers! show for me plz on com. rules ( https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=5) where we cant help our opponent get more fraction skill points(fsp)in combat if opponent losing anyway. | I have a question.
Whether I can play, and any ways to achieve a victory.
Whether I can make mistakes during fight?
Whether I can show the opponent the power?
Whether I can scoff at the opponent, having left him one weak group, if I am sure in the victory?
Whether I specially can receive impact from an enemy to be convinced of his weakness?
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For Kotrin...
You have entitled to punish the players, but only only that in game there were no insults, mult, contractual fights..
That it was pleasant to all of us to play.
But you have used the authority, for the benefit.
Kusika are strong lord, and he never broke of rules.
He always to aspire to a victory, and he has a choice, as to him to play of any situation. And you, Kotrin, have no right to specify to him his style of game.
I have not seen in it to fight of any contractual duel | moonvampire showed that rule 3.16 on .ru and .com have a difference. although not a big difference but a significant difference. imo, i think it is unreasonable to expect players to play on .com while being expected to know and follow .ru rules which probably most of us cannot understand since it is in russian. that said, how can case law be applied when there are 2 different sets of rules?
i believe mods interpret the rules as best they can and apply it accordingly. but how can punishment be given when there is no rule to state such an offence on .com? | | why are talking about .ru anyway did someone say he got punished because of the .ru server rules? | | yes Wurmtog | moonvampire showed that rule 3.16 on .ru and .com have a difference. although not a big difference but a significant difference. imo, i think it is unreasonable to expect players to play on .com while being expected to know and follow .ru rules which probably most of us cannot understand since it is in russian. that said, how can case law be applied when there are 2 different sets of rules?
Again, i find this just semantic, the game is the same, whose created it are the same people, those running it are the same.
I have a lowly char on the .ru server, granted i almost never log it because i'm a "one char" kind of player, but regardless of the fact i don't know russian and i didn't use a translator i played it jsut fine because i knew where to click without even understanging what was written.
You guys are trying to pass in the fact that players can't know the russains wording.
This is irrilevant, what is relevant is that those entitled to judge players behavior *can* use .ru case law as reference, this is what have happened, you may nitpick that the ruleset don't specify what to do on every single different case, i humbly point to you that NO laws of ANY nation in the world have such detailed laws that encompass all possible situations, tribunals everywhere operate with case law if appliable | Indeed, this thread is going nowhere.
I completely agree.
You guys read the rules, right?
https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=6
1.5. Moderator's actions can be disputed by putting in an application to the game Secretary (thread link and detailed description of the application cause required).
5.2. A moderator can be wrong. If you suspect he or she is, c.f. par.1.5.
Local Rules (https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1838991)
4. Questions regarding penalties, unblock requests, and other kinds of communication with Administration are made with the help of Secretary (https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4). If your combat level is below the 3rd and you can't use the private mail - either raise your level or ask your friends or clanmates. Contacting the Administration via "Queries & Help" is SENSELESS.
Thus, topics are closed if:
1.2. - Flame or flood started.
Thus:
I suggest everyone disagreeing with this ruling to write their indignation to Secretary.
https://www.lordswm.com/sms-create.php?mailto=Secretary
Thread closed due to flaming back and forth. Sorry. | | closed by Lady Takesister (2009-09-09 16:51:24) |
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