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AuthorStalking thief.....beware
easy to avoid him
if you are done with your merc quest, wait several minutes before you start travelling
Since you can go here: https://www.lordswm.com/bselect.php?all=1
Do a CTRL+F => [13]
That will find all lev13 players in a battle at the moment, so you just check if there are any in a merc quest, if they are you just click on their profile. Then you wait until they are done with their quest and travel back, and you place the ambush.
But if you wait several minutes after you ve done your merc quest, he will get annoyed by the constant refreshing on your char profile :)
and less than 5 minutes after ambushing me.. next victim

06-29-10 10:15: • darkelf84[13] vs -P3nnyw1se-[13]
06-29-10 09:56: • darkelf84[13] vs Jedi-Knight[13]

I offer 1000 gold to all thief hunters who brings me his 'head'.. each time. Unlimited time offer, as many times as you can. till I say otherwise in this thread.

To claim your reward, just drop me a mail everytime you have hunted successfully this stalker of innocent victims from our peaceful Empire. :)
102 : I'm willing to bring his head for free and even willing to offer 5000 gold for each successful anti-ambush to anyone providing info about how to catch him :D
I've tried more than 30 times by following victim candidates from [current battles] , all failed.
Anti-thief guild

Reputation: 10

Nowadays, thieves are rampant along the roads of Empire, and the travelers are seriously worried about their safety. You will have to track and hunt down darkelf84. Start making your preparations now. Rid the kingdom of this menace and make the routes of the innocent travelers safe again.

Award: 1000 gold

Accept or Decline.

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101: I just noticed a player today who moved between GC <-> MC being caught by him, so i don't think he is simply watch the battles page to catch players in merc quests, my guess is, it's may not be diffcult to write an auto refresh script in javascripts, and this script can also automaticaly check the total APs of arts, since u can easily use microsoft office to catch any page info from internet, it must be easier to achieve this using javascripts.
105

Maybe it is easy to write something to help him,however,it won't be easy to run the script.
There are around 100 lv13 players so far,to catch every players' information of locations , one need to capture 100 different data of pages at the same time,which will seriously slow down his PC and the server as well.
Hi all, it's been a while since I read the thread i started....glad to see so much response, but guess nothing I can do to avoid being a target. I have saw some suggestions, and most of them requires me to check this, do that before I even set off for my destination, or maybe wearing full arts (which with my current demon racial, makes no difference if I wear full or 0 arts), our friend would change his arts accordingly on ambush me nonetheless. I hate to change the way I play a game because someone decides to exploit a system loophole (IMHO) to target unsuspecting players. It's a pity as I have enjoyed this game for almost 2 years. Maybe I will just slow down and let him level to 14 and start bugging others instead of me (just stay 1 level below him!).

Take care and good luck to all!
@85
sorry for that :P
Hi all
I had 10 ambushes in succesion wihthin 24 hours.
This is a good record. I was very lucky.
06-29-10 17:18: • darkelf84[13] vs nsr69[13]
06-29-10 15:37: • darkelf84[13] vs Bildukas[13], rions3[13]
06-29-10 14:21: • xone0016[13] vs darkelf84[13]
06-29-10 10:49: • darkelf84[13] vs nsr69[13]
06-29-10 10:15: • darkelf84[13] vs -P3nnyw1se-[13]
06-29-10 09:56: • darkelf84[13] vs Jedi-Knight[13]
06-29-10 08:12: • darkelf84[13] vs Vigulfr[13]
06-29-10 06:43: • darkelf84[13] vs Bildukas[13]
06-29-10 03:07: • darkelf84[13] vs Phase[13]
06-29-10 02:04: • darkelf84[13] vs vrancea[13]
06-28-10 20:14: • darkelf84[13] vs Sion[13], Jedi-Knight[13]

There were 2 ambushes i have had to against 2 players in the above log.
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=490564071
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=490580234
I thought I would have lost when i saw 2 players in my ambush. I think those are 2 good ambushes.
Thank you for your discussing.
I think darkelf84 is enjoying all this attention. :)

All this attention and the thief hunters are helping him out.
I travel with max enchant after he ambushed me the first time :)

anyway he do a big work and he is the greatest player thief on server :)

i tried too to observe players in battle log of my level witch do merc quests in other player and set ambush when they finish the miss
but its really hard
in a whole day i cautched only 4 players ;(
i think admins can easy fix this, like previously prevent players intentionally losing combat to gain lots of fsp.

so, my suggestions to admin:

1. players location
currently player's location changes immediately after moving. if you see my location changes from YL to GC, you know i start moving and i'm on the way. i suggestion the location change after destination arrival. if you see my location changed from YL to GC, that means i have already arrived GC. so no one can stalk others.

2. time line
the ambush happens only when traveler move to the route where the thief has already set ambush. if the ambush was set after the traveler's moving, the travel cannot be ambushed by that thief.

3. ap rule
only when thief and traveler wear similar ap, let's say the difference is less than 3 ap, may happen the ambush. for example, thief wears 24 ap, so he can only ambush traveler who wears 21-27ap. this can prevent either thief or traveler intentional wear more ap looking poorly equipped opponents for an unfair combat.

i believe these are pretty easy to be achieved by admin to make a fair play.
I like the first two suggestions. I would oppose the third one though. It would mean that if you travel with NO art, you would not be ambushed, since the thief must have min AP to set an ambush.
forgot to mention, naked travelers are treated as min ap
+112&113

I like the ideas =D
to 112
I am sure that admin won't fix it because it is not a problem, not a bug. As i said it is a part of the game. If people want to know why it is a part of the game, ask the person who has created this game. Why did not the people who hate me suggest a idea that banning me because i am a great thief. what do you think about a idea what you can do all mer quests only in YL? No moving, no ambushes, no thieves, no game. Do you think what is thief's work? U should not be a thief if you think it is unethical, If you are a thief, don't complain "it is unfair, it is unethical". If you hate thieves, this means you hate this game, u can choice "play or do not play".
3. ap rule
only when thief and traveler wear similar ap, let's say the difference is less than 3 ap, may happen the ambush. for example, thief wears 24 ap, so he can only ambush traveler who wears 21-27ap. this can prevent either thief or traveler intentional wear more ap looking poorly equipped opponents for an unfair combat.


Sorry, but this is a stupid idea. If I would always travel with no arts, I could never be attacked by a thief? (Since no thief can attack with 3 AP.)
I concur with 112's first 2 suggestions. What's the reason with letting people see where you are going in the first place?
for darkelf84, #116:

i agree with you that thieving is part of the game.

i disagree with you that hating thieves means hating the game. by the contrary: anti-thieving (or so called: thief-bagging) is ALSO part of the game.

neither is illegal, immoral, unethical, unfair.

keep on having fun everyone. with both of them!
i still think this guy is a genius! and the longer i observe this thread the more i think so!

A lot of gamers in LoWM appear to kind of admire high level players. But everyone can just play for hours and hours each day - there is no real art in that. reaching high levels is just a sign that someone has too much time...
Still: High level players get a strangly high amount of respect and admiration here (and they are not always the realy good tacticians).

but this guy!: he finds new ways of gaming! he sees more than just levels and exp and maximum damage. he sees underlying mechanics and spots opportunity - and then grabs it!

i wonder why so many people here try to declare this as loophole and even cry out for the admins to "correct" it. i guess because they did't have the idea in the first place =)


for darkelf84: envy is the highest form of admiration!

*claps bravo*


and besides: is getting ambushed such a big deal? it's not like you realy loose something (except 10 minutes worth of enrolling).
This topic is long since last update and considered obsolete for further discussions.

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