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All about Knight faction: Stats, Talent, Tactics, Strategy


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AuthorAll about Knight faction: Stats, Talent, Tactics, Strategy
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1. dont attack with griffs first, wait with griffs and use 1 bowman or sword to take retal. It's important to last long with griffs so your bowmen will have one extra turn to deal damage.
2. You need better arts becoz you can't expect your part to have good arts.
3. I dont suggest luck agains offensive creatures. If your luck doesnt trigger after the retal hit, you will lose a lot of troops.

4. Probably the most important point.....
what can we say about your partner..... low sp and wrong arts.. suicidal tactics and wrong setups
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separate 1 bowman for taking retal. Bowmans have higher init than swords, so they always will move earlier. That's advantage against 1 sword or recruit. I advise you also to separate bowmans on 2 big stack(if you alone against mobs - 4) and put their far from each other.
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I just got a TGI and I'm wondering if I should split my x-bows into 2 or 3 stacks or just keep them all in one stack. So far, I've done 2 ambushes with the bows split into 2 stacks of 20 and it helped draw the AI's attention away from my other troops while they cleaned house :)

I know that the caravans will get harder from here on out so I want your opinions on this subject.

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Another battle with Elite FKs. Still badly beaten. Any ways to improve it?
volley is not always a good choice. Sometimes it is better to shot at close range one enemy stuck and attack him by melee-unit. Also do not put your units close.
Thanks KAMAZ
@darklightz:

you placed your griffins in a way that the efk could
a) attack bowmen AND griffins with 1 attack
b) attack griffins AND Swords with 1 attack

so you got damage multiple times where it wasn't necessary
taking retal was okay i think
try to kill the enemies stack by stack
so don't damage them all, finish one first
I look at the combat again. I too realized the mistake. Thanks for pointing out again.
Javi, I have been making 4 stacks of 10 x-bows and spreading them out all over the map. I have monks in one corner, griffs in another, and a stack of 10 x-bows in each of the other corners, plus 10 x-bows half way between two corners. (I just started thieving at level 8 a week ago) and it seems to work pretty well. The caravans especially waste a lot of attacks on the x-bows, especially if you have full arts, and I can knock them down pretty good before they start going after the swords and even the griffs.
Thanks sungor! I'll give it a shot.
How you fight with monster-shooter? I block him by units and take crossbowmans on short range. But this is hard and risky. Can somebody suggest a better way?
In order to establish which setup is more important defense+vitality or leadership+rally we need to perform some HP analysis. On a racial lvl 5 a knight (training chamber included) can add till 1709 HP (13 griffs, 49 swords, 43 bows and 3 recruits), but in second setup only 1600 HP, even we can add 4 more swords and 7 bows. On the top of that, +1 morale can trigger or not, but the 10% damage reduction from basic defense works everytime in melee. So, from my point of view, the choice is obvious.
Another interesting stuff regarding knight faction is the amount of gold needed when reach lvl 8 to build castle structures (monastery, MG2 and upg to cross); we will need around 90k gold including the price for buying necessary resources (I deduct the bonus in gold and resources when level-up).

PS: can someone tell me if he has built underground depot. It seems to me 20k gold wasted.
03-21-09 16:12
fight against rogues anyone know how i could have done batter?
but i think i did good enough at least i won
for kamaz
i just fight only once in lv8 (Succubi) and 9 more before.
i think when you send sth to block the monster, it may move closer.
and if x bow is in its range it will charge your x bow.
so no need to send x bow forward, just keep them under protect of the monks.

for crys41
depot is depend on how many arts you want to stock.
10 slot for 20,000 are too expensive for me (but finally i have it)

before you reach level 8 you still have time to save ( i spent 2 week without battle to affod all)
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After all is a matter of personal choice how to develop, faster or not, buying arts and smashing neutrals and doing PvP duels, or achieving gold to ensure development of buildings for the next level-up.
In order to establish which setup is more important defense+vitality or leadership+rally we need to perform some HP analysis. On a racial lvl 5 a knight (training chamber included) can add till 1709 HP (13 griffs, 49 swords, 43 bows and 3 recruits), but in second setup only 1600 HP, even we can add 4 more swords and 7 bows. On the top of that, +1 morale can trigger or not, but the 10% damage reduction from basic defense works everytime in melee. So, from my point of view, the choice is obvious.

That would be true, if not for one thing.
If you don't get attacked anyways, then why does hp matter? Supposing you're facing really slow creatures in a hunt (zombies come to mind), or creatures that don't do a lot of damage, and they don't damage you as much, then HP doesn't really, matter, now does it? Extra swordsmen and bowmen will do more attacking damage, compounded with arts (HP doesn't give you that). Extra morale means more turns which means more attacks which means more damage. :D In other cases, I agree though, basic defense + vitality is better.


On a different note, I'm going to go to level 8 soon.
When should I use complete crossbows (when I get them), and when should I use complete swordsmen (for battles)?
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A few pages ago in this thread there was a discussion about this very topic. Go back to page 13 (post 250). That should help you out.
Thanks for the info. :)
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