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i don't like max poisoners.
for PvP maybe?
but for merc quests and hunts, max rogues is better 90% of time.
max poisoners are good when you face lots of shooters, for all other fights max rogues is better. |
since there is no edit functio sorry for double post
this was the battle i had in mind:
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=9031540
look at what the poisoner did with the shrews! i doubt 10 more shrews instead of poisoners would have had the same effect |
| I cannot seem to access the url :( |
| Argh, I lost again :( |
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=477416356
Vanguard of KNights level 15 .. any ideas how to kill them ? the guardians seem very much hard to kill .. :) damn haha .. :) |
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=9468601
How to kill these crazy barbarians ?? I have no idea really .. Made me sick in thievings .. ^^ |
@265:
i normally split the shrews into 2 lots and take out the archers first....
usually only 1 stack of griffs will attk ur shrews; in fact the guardians will ignore them even if they're in range cos the AI basically goes for the farmers
you should cast "delay" to slow them down and chip away with the shrews
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=477207582 |
| Thx a lot for the Idea .. I have to improve my skill then I can MASTER the DE .. I have mastered the Knights, but not this faction .. thx once again for the advices .. :) |
| ok, now is March-28 hope someone can found this question can somebody give me a link to a battle that DE defeat barb and the mainly point is how can I handle that 27 orcs with high magic resistance..thanx for help...:D |
What is the best formation for lvl 5 elf with poisoners for PVP?
And how do you defeat a necro is 75 skely bowmen and 50mp?? |
| for TheEvilTemplar: The Rogues still the key .. ^^ Try to maximize rogues, then minos .. leave poisoners behind .. For the magic, still the orcs first .. but do not forget ur rogues will get more turns than the orcs .. :) |
| Can someone please help me? I don't know how I should distribute my troops. Is my current troop distribution good for PVP? |
| Gah, poisoners seem to be overpriced. They have ranged penalty, and their poisoning does not do that much dmg :( |
| anyone? |
Xordax
There is no best formation for Dark Elves. However some formations I like are
1. Max Lizards and Minos first. Have a few Poisoners for retal, and the few remaining in rogues. Why? In PvP Battles Rogues come under immediate scrutiny and get picked on. If you have a lot of rogues then you are the first player weakened on your side. Also Minos although slow have fantastic hitpoints. Usually the slow units are the last creatures standing, and Minos can move 5 squares while other slow units like ogres and swordsmen can only move 4 squares. Also if you total all of your units hitpoints into one big total, this method has the largest number of hitpoints at 5th level.
2. The following is experiemental but it worked for me at 5th or 6th level the few times I tried it, but that could have been because the enemy was confused. Max poisoners, then max rogues, then max minos, then max lizards. This method gives you the greatest number of units. On face value this looks weak. However if you use poisoners as melee units instead of ranged units they will do a lot more damage especially to living victims. Of course have a few single poisoner units to take retal strikes. I found this strategy very effective against Knights especially in dealing with their griffins.
3. Max Lizards and Rogues, then get Minos except a few poisoners for retal. This is perhaps the best combination for damage dealing. But your enemy would know this. Rogues are great damage dealers, fast and can run away. However they have low hitpoints and are an easy target for enemy ranged fire, leaving the Lizards exposed. On face value this is your strongest setup. Ironically it is also your weakest against an effective ranged attack.
There is no concrete strategy for dark elves otherwise everyone would be playing them. Have a look at my PvP Battle Logs when I was 5th level. Experiment a little. Poisoners are not entirely useless.
Perhaps the best advice I could give is save for a powerful and full artifact set. More often than not the last players standing in a PvP are the ones with the best artifacts.
Cheers |
| for xordax: Depends on ur choice, Might-DE or Magic-DE, I suggest to be a MIght-DE than try to max ur attack, ALWAYS invest the primary skill into ATTACK ^^ |
However, is Might DE better than Magic DE? It has no spells :(.
Also, I keep losing. Can someone tell me what is wrong with my play? |
#277
you are level5.
it's the hardest level for dark elves. (6th is hard too if you don't buy shrews with diamonds)
might build is maybe OK for hunt records, but not for PvP: you don't have shooters, your rogues dies very fast...
magic build seems to be the only way for level5 DE to win some PvP battles, and it's very good for merc quests too.
you have 3 spell power, 3 knowledge.
3 spell power, is not enough, your magic arrows are too weaks.
30 mana is useless, you don't have time to spend all.
20 mana is enough, it allows you to cast 5 magic arrows, it's enough to cast a magic arrow per turn until end of fight.
if your point from erudition is on knowledge, reset your talent wheel, retake erudition, and put the point in spell power.
otherwise, use potion of oblivion. take only 2 knwoledge, put all other points in spell power.
after that, you need artifacts to raise your spell power:
wizard cap, combat staff, and cape of spirits.
with that, you will have 7 spell power, 2 knowledge.
you magic arrows will deal 80 damages, your eathern spikes 36 damages (very good to kill splitted druids) |
Magic DE seems a bit better at level 5.
DE is pretty weak in pvp at this level.
You sould have a better chance in full arted battles because your spells will bypass you ennemies defence, while their attack will be reduce by your def.
But that is a very expensive option, and it seems you haven't the gold for it.
Maybe try out 'every one for oneself' battles. |
If you play 3 vs. 3 or 2 vs. 2 battles, you can easily spend 40 spellpoints... Especially if you use the elemental call talent... (5 strong magic arrows)
So far im a sucker for Magic build.. (level 6) |
