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and with battle fury compared to expert luck, if you get a luck trigger, you;ll hit the same as a normal hit with battle fury, so battle fury is better

Can you explain this, please? I am not sure I quite follow your argument.

and with battle fury compared to expert luck, if you get a luck trigger, you;ll hit the same as a normal hit with battle fury, so battle fury is better


Doesn't make sense. Sprites enjoy battle fury most, which gives them +50% damage, while upon luck trigger they double their damage, or +100%.
At luck parameter +2, on average, a troop gains 20% extra damage per turn. At luck +3, 30%. Battle fury (+1 to min and max) + basic offence (+10%):
- sprites: 60%
- efk's: 26.7% - 43.3%
- gmb: 22.5% - 26.7%
- druids: 21.1% - 24.3%
- unicorns: 15% - 20%

At combat level 7, it may seem that on average basic offence + battle fury would be better, but don't forget that Elf troops tend to get the luck at the beginning. That's why I prefer luck (especially for pvp and ambushes).
what is knock back shot
https://www.lordswm.com/help.php?section=32

# Knocking shot:
‡ Triggering special ability.
In addition to the normal damage, there is a chance that this creature would knock the target back by 0.2 points on the ATB scale, delaying its turn.
It's nice feature but it's a blade with double sharp edge. E.g., if you use it in hunt with sprites, it can knock back a stack and your sprites turns can be caught in between two hunted stacks. :(
Elf troops tend to get the luck at the beginning

why is this? the chance is the same for every faction or not?

Sure, the bowmen attack twice per turn so there is double chance for them, but otherwise it should be the same as any other faction ... Am I wrong?
Theoretically, you should be right. Practically... :)

When I was lower level, I compared luck/morale chances with a Dark Elf. At the same low luck parameter (+1 or +2 at the maximum) I got more luck than him and vice-versa with morale. You can compare for yourself as well. Maybe I am wrong and I was "lucky" to get more luck... who knows?
im a lvl 4 elf...keep losing in a majority of the battles. any tips for a lvl4 elf during PvP battles. Who would be the easier factions to beat at this level?
Im a lvl 6 elf who wants help with pvp like whom to duel and strategies since i only need 7000 exp for lvl 7 i thought it would be easy
Don't duel the barbs. The rest are winnable. I recommend pvp's with 3vs3 for your level.
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=15127243
i doubt other factions can beat a caravan with 1000+ skeleton archer WITH MIN ARTS that easy on lvl 9 :) and i'm not skilled perfectly (low mercenary/hunter guild level)
bump to keep this thread alive (no need for a new one; 2 days passed since the last post) :)
^^
hi...im a lvl5 elf. I wanted to know whether it makes sense for me to go for sprites at this stage (they are quite expensive) or wait till lvl6/7? Will i really need sprites as lvl 5? I am thinking that i can use some of that money in artifacts instead...

thanks for the advice
For PvP you dont really need them, dying to quick. But you will love their Power in hunts against slow creatures.
@395: Wait until level 6. No rush needed but only if you want to break some hunting records.
for drdre23:

Sprites are best known for their 'hit & run' tactics against slow creatures.

See this one for example. You can beat thousands of slow creatures with sprites (https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=483614272&lt=-1).

My EFK won't stand a chance against them :)

As for your question, I can only tell you that if you have sprites, you can win your Swordsmen Raid easily. In hunts, sprites are very powerful against certain type of creatures.

IMO, it depends on your gold actually. If you can afford it, you better upgrade ASAP. But if you don't have the gold, it can wait. But you better start enrolling harder :))
for 395, I've found sprites to be most useful when you are battling neutrals with 7 or less initiative (slow creatures). In this way sprites get to move twice when the neutrals only get to move once, therefore allowing hit and run.

When I didn't have sprites, hunting golems, zombies and infected zombies were harder to manage than when I did because hit and run is very effective against neutrals with no morale (mechanical, undead, etc.) As long as you manage them well they are worth the the investment.

But really its your choice between wanting to do better hunts or not. You probably dont "need" it though, I just went for it because i think they're cool. :)
okay overall is like this (according to my experience as elf)

Sprites-good in hunting slow neutral(means less speed and initiative) and attacking max 3 stack and no retail
EFKs-good in massacres as it has battledance

so in mass hunts for high initiative use EFKs for fast killings
for slow neutrals use sprites as u can hit and run
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