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I totally agree with everything Karsot said. Only that my double problem is that I was thieving with full arts before, so my caravans are even stronger then his... I have no chance at all to win any caravan now (before I had over 90% win ratio), even with old talents and my new mythril longsword [E9A9]. I believe admins should reconsider this map enlargment, cause it sucks totally!
I'm ok with enlarged map. But with the larger map, it should have
caravan army size reduced. I watched some lvl 14 fight a wizard caravan
with 1500 garg, 200 magi, 50 sphynx. In what kind of equipment can a
player defeat such a caravan? Ambushes are supposed to be hard but doable.
With full shop art and at both high combat level and TG level, some 25%
to 50% win ratio is reasonable or with some certain loses the caravan are
defeatable at least.
If he loses the combat, the difficulty for that caravan type will be decreased. I think it is a decent mechanic, but doesn't promise that any given caravan will be defeatable.
I really don't see a reason, why they had to enlarge it that much! I mean 12x12, than 18x18. Before 144 squares, now 324, that's more than double! I know that DE were probably the best faction for theivieng before, BUT ONLY because shrews could reach the most deadly units in first turn. Now, it's everything like Karsot described above, pointless for us. Why would you even need a 6 2x2 tiles? Do we have so many large creatures?
I agree wit large map for PvP ambushes, cause before it was really only down to the initiative factor. I easily defeated all the other factions, the only problem could be a higher initiative DE. So, the new map brings some new dimension to the PvP gameplay and I like that. But please, do something with the caravans, cause now the most atractive part of this game for me has gone down the toilet and I'm sad :(
#83, you can do a simple math how many loses needed to reduce caravan size half, although I still doubt if half size of that wiz caravan is defeatable, noting you can hard do enough dps before the wiz hero lightens every single creature of yours out.

As well, even after your hard effort you reduce the caravan size defeatble,
how many win could you get before they are undefeatable again and how soon
will you level up or something else to reset the difficulty of caravans?
Let us all together in unison and loud chorus admins say: Thank you for the changes in TG )
They did not even bother to explain why such a change in the TG
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=16512259

Beat full art barb with 6 racial :) Thanks to buffed lightning and larger field..
#88
I tought that the enemy should catch the gargs around the battlefield, but looks like this barb was the one on the run... interesting tactic...
Let us all together in unison and loud chorus admins say:

return caravans to normal size!!!!!!!!
For 90
+1 ))
Nah, I like the new map, the only thing bother me is it is too hard to attack large creatures from corners, as my mouse won't sit still :)
Let us all together in unison and loud chorus admins say:

return caravans to normal size!!!!!!!!


Well, I can see a lot of players (including me) sharing your sentiments, but revert back? Ermm.. close to fat chance. :)

.ru have had this longer than us, and though I don't play there, I can imagine the outcry a lot of (cash-paying) players are making there.

Our only hope is that they revert back to original size at .ru coz of the huge negative responses. Only then will we have a chance. Other than that, pray as we might, I guess thieving is out of the questions for a lot of players here.
In ru. even promised to reduce the force of a caravan of 20% .. after there all thieves wailed))
Actually I wanna they reduce the force of a caravans

cause with the the size of battlefield the force of cara was almost doubled
^^ Guess maybe they will revert it back after 1 Dec deadline.
if winning a caravan is a very small probability case, i guess nobody would like to play with it. then it's the time to change or eliminate the TG :P

i wanna ask you guys would you like to play a game that you can never or seldom win?
i already do since months - thief guild with min arts :D
again gain 0.68 fsp for win.....where my 1.0?????((((
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=484532652
At least u guys get to do thieves guild...

gonna take ages to save up to buy one
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