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Have you noticed that DE are very upsad about update? They have to change their simple tactic, and they are not wining so many ambushes anymore :D.
But update brought a little balacne in tg, and DEs cant acept, that they are not THE BEST anymore :D
I realy like 18x18 field...
And for Darmogathel: Bigger field is advantage for necro ;)
I'm pretty happy about the changes as well. Finally I stand some real chances agains DE. Before the expansion of the ambush map and offence cost increase for DE most of my army was usually killed before I had a chance to move.

However I understand that DE players don't like it. Nobody likes when their characters get nerfed. Unfortunately for it was a necessary change so other factions like necro or wizards could enjoy the game to the same extent as they do.
Not all DE ;)

At lvl 11, DE got a massive buff. I'm still winning as much caravans as before although they are a lot stronger.
DE may not be as OP as before in ambush, but they still are one of the strongest.
Nobody likes when their characters get nerfed

so so true, if people cant 1 shot everything like they used to before, there will always be wonderful bouts of nerdrage
Knights got a major nerf with this new map. Our guardians now take twice as long to reach the enemy and by the time that happens, it might be too little too late. Also, the strategy of using a stack of 1 crossbow to take retal for your stronger units goes out the window because they take too long to reach the enemy. At level 10, I was winning my fair share of thief ambushes, but since I leveled up to 11 my winning percentage has dropped significantly. At this rate, I will never reach TG4 by December 1st. And since I rented my TGI, I'll never get my own Invite. I don't like this part of the update one bit.
to 145: maybe you can try to ambush with full arts...
Total sum of your stats is 46... At lvl 11... I have 52 at lvl 10.
So dont cry and buy some proper arts
Already I start to hate this game with foolish updating in Guild of Thieves
for Javi:
maybe you could try to max xbows. i don't know, i would at least try them
before update I had caravan with 9 cavalry now I had the same ... with 16 cavalry...

and the time is passing...

I don't care the size of bf, why did they improved caravans ??????

ffs
Changed faction,got some arts...
TG4, I'm coming!
Do caravans get easier if you get TG1? I just fought a devil type who was much easier in numbers then the last I defeated.
^^ Now they reduced caravan difficulty?
^^ for Nereid: Whoa , you got more than 20 wins in a row after grand update,
even its not your main, demons seems really a thief master ;)
i had only 2 successfull ambushes today.
today i met 3 thief hunters, and i had a double ambush were both players used at least 1 minute per move...they needed nearly 1 hour to defeat me, they really wasted my time.
and i met 0 naked players, 0 players travelling with 1 unit.

i lost something like 5 hours between long fights and penality of losing, and i wasted durability of my arts, for nothing.

i still have 61 thief points to win before 1st december. 2 per day is definitly not enough...it will be very hard for me to reach TG4 before 1st december in these conditions.
i will have a very short night, i must try to catch up the 5hours of wasted time i had today :(

lots of players are in race against time to reach TG4 or TG2.
some of them will fail (i hope i won't be one of them)
those who will fail will lose a thief invite (worth 400k gold) in best case, or be blocked in worst case(for TGI renters who needs to return a TGI within 1 month)
it's very bad sportsmanship to travel full arts before 1st december.
every time a player running after TG points meet a thief hunter, his chances to win the race against time gets lower.

this is a message for all players, of every levels: hunt thieves how often as you want, but please, do it AFTER 1st december.
Karsot, I am in a same situation, but I have to win over 120 ambushes at the moment. However, I still think I can manage that (I am in full art, of course).
Thief hunters was here, are here and still will be here. Find out how to deal with them, I think chances to win are equal for thief and victim with larger battlefield.
@154
I think we met twice at the time where you fought with min arts. I remember the jokes about waisting hunter full arts durability for a petty combat against min arts thief :)

I support you and other in the race however. Good luck to all of you and let's meet after December the 1st. Until then I travel naked.
I think it's a matter of perception. In my case I rarely even meet any players after the update let alone a ton of thief hunters. In fact I don't think players are traveling enough. It takes me very long to even get an ambush now.
I'm in race, too. Though 13 ambushes until december should be no problem, even if I can't afford level 7 arts.

I don't travel in arts, because I know, some player are in big trouble. And I go a step further and travel with only 3 units, so thieves simply can't lose against me.

If you want to support us players, who got this difficult task, just do it like me. :)
@156
thanks very much.
i just hope some other thief hunters will follow your very good exemple ;)

@155
i managed to defeat 1 of the 3 thief hunters.
but my chances are pretty low since i don't have the best arts for now:
i use steel cuirass when my oppents uses platemail, i use defender shield when my oppents use thief dagger or tower shield...

at my last ambush i had attack 20 def 15 VS attack 29 def 20...i couldn't do anything else than expecting oppent to make wrong moves and give me victory, but it didn't happen.
#154

A possible incentive for thief hunters are that ambushes now gives (correct me if I'm wrong) double the exp now after the update. So for those who wants to level up fast in the shortest time (ambushes are much shorter than GBs), thief hunting may be their choice.

While I have never understood or like thief hunters (most of them were also once thieves who raced against time to get that TG2 or TG4, and should understand the frustration of coming up against full (enchanted) arts players and serving those 1-hour penalties), it's fair to say we can't stop other players from playing the way they do.

So my suggestions are

- to wear more arts than them (I know the cost per battle is higher, but sacrifices have to be made if you are racing against time to get that 350-400k TGI. You are still wearing SoM, defender shield etc. There are much better arts than those. Imagine if you just miss that TGI by 1-2 wins on Dec 1st..

- Travel the least likely route you would meet thief hunters (THs). THs likes to travel along the popular ambush routes. Yes, the time taken to trigger an amush may be longer, but at least youy run less of a risk of getting that 1-hour penalty from meeting a full, enchanted arts TH. You'll have to weigh the pros and cons for this one yourself.


#157

Yep, I tend to agree. A lot of thieves not racing to get TG2 or TG4 have probably basically stopped or cut down on their ambushing.
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