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so, could me someone say, how is possible, that at beginning their faires reach my sprites? i counted it many times and still think, computer was cheating ;-)


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Zephyranna wrote:

I'd love to see the caravan's setup too. That would help a lot. The problem as it is now is that the game sets up the caravans to benefit themselves against your setup. If it were switched, then players would have a better chance against many tough caravans.
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1) it inst about helping or not helping; as about you treat with things;
you could love freedom or be much more on the "psychopath way"

(many of you will dont know what i am talking about, so my advice is: grow)


2) i have same feeling, that computer set units against mine setup, but its just feeling


skip the question about efk....

i will return to luck talents later....
true is, that thiefing made i big jump in my fighting skills:-)

and still nobody answer, that ambushing is about random, not only tactic ;-)


(sorry for my english, corrector nowhere :-d )
oh cmon... See caravans before start? What would be next? To decrease caravan strenght by 50% becouse you are unable to defeat them?
And you would like to see troops of your opponent in a duel too? So you can choose best setup?

There is a lot of succesfull thieves on this server, so it is possible to win most of ambushes. But being a succesfull thief is honor, it demands a lot of skills and experiences and luck of course. Not everyone can be good at ambushes.

So insted of crying here on forum, try to check other players tactics and learn from their victories...
markussk: dont wake up, lets keep sleeping as you do
to Ssgsd: I have read your profil, and now I can understant why are you still crying on the forum. You are just man, who cant control his anger, and who cant stand against chalenges. I think, TG is not the best type of combat for you...

BTW you really should delete that Czech rubish from your profile...
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=16788655 [F][C]

so, could me someone say, how is possible, that at beginning their faires reach my sprites? i counted it many times and still think, computer was cheating ;-)


You counted bad. :(
Markussk: crying:-P did you read something, just something what i wrote? little piece? and used by it brain? maybe next time ;-)

and that matter about my rubbish czech... i will delete after i finish tg 2 ;-)
i am thinking about little questionnaire (used dictionary, hope the right word)to be more constructive...

straws: its better, you reading and answering ;-) but not perfect;-)

i thought, that moving straight eat 1 point, and cross eat 2 points...
its overally good idea, but not perfect... if you count this way, you are missing some few tiles, where unit could reach

dont know why, but so it is; so you are right, i was countig bad, but now i dont udnerstand and never saw any formula, how is movement counted???

ps: did you know, i miss, you could move over enemy unit with mouse? :-P
how is movement counted
Straight - 1
Diagonal (cross) - 1.5
Pantheon: :-d :-d :-d :-d

thx man :-d
You can't say that.. First diagonal move consumes 2 points, the next even number comsumes 1 point, the third 2 points and so on.

Odd number of diagonal moves: First, third, fifth etc consumes 2 points
Even numver of diagonal moves: Second, fourth, sixth etc consumes 1.
for hiddenshadow:
1.5 works. If there's an extra 0.5 left, it doesn't mean anything since your only options are straight (1) and diagonal (1.5).

I find that 1.5 is much easier to use than the 2 and 1 point system for odds and evens.
\o/ Yay! I did it! With time to spare. :-)
isnt it true, that no matter how skilled or equipped you are, the caravans will eventually get stronger or weaker, till they are at your level and you get your 33% win ratio ?
ps: i remember years ago i was told, diagonal move costs 1,4 (root of 2)
it follows pytagoras and it would be logic.
for Wurmtog:
Yups caravan inc in strength by bout 5% each win and lose strength bout 2-3% each loss !
just wanted to know if i lose to lots of caravans as DE and then i change faction, will carawans be resetted back to full? if yes, then, when i switch back, will i get my old weakenned DE caravans?

curious weather its worth losing against carawans and then switching faction.

somewhere deep i feel it should work :)

thanks
It seems, its more answers how to formula for movement works:-P

but i have new ideas how to count, lets try it in the combat:-)


and... nobody answer me, the part about random vs tactic...

i mean, how could you win, if you have offensive setup and you need defesive setup and "vice versa". ;-)
to Ssgsd: I think, that there is not answer for your question ;). For example, If I choose bat setup, in most cases I simply loose the fight.
So mostly I am using the most universal setup that works in most cases agains particular race. ;)
The strength of caravans will reset
Where did you get that from?
I have never experienced any reset at level up.
Caravans difficulty increases, but reset?
I find it a bit strange since it would mean a thief using an extremly effective art set and pulling out a very high win/loss ratio may face weaker caravans when he levels up.
Strength of caravans increases around 20% when you gain combat level according to my experience. Getting extra TG level does not change anything also.

Doing caravans in min/low AP is best tactic - given time the caravan difficulty will adjust to your army's power and eventually your win/loss ration will stabilize.

Doing caravans in full arts and also being a good thieving faction at the same time ( like DE ) is a certain recipe for death :)

If you want to see in action what i mean - watch Marked_one's caravans. They are ridiculously easier than most other level 13-14 players and he beats a good amount of them with new faction and not much gear. The reason is he was patient for long time :-)
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