| Author | Discussion polygon: LWM Staff - Moderators |
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http://www.warriors-guild.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1059
Just read it....man, words can really manipulate you.Halvspak's view is total opposite of what I read.Kotrin """WAS""" a moderator,so his politeness can be said being professional, outside of his job, he is free.
for a Manager of a pub,it is not required to be so strict and professional maintaining everything.He can himself go and dance with others and do all that stuff.So it doesn't mean his acting like different is objective. The same hypothesis 'may' apply for Kotrin.
Kotrin resigned for a VARIETY of reasons,(dude,plz read that link till you stop posting in this thread for awhile again =))
that being said , I think No one can help u to get out of this thread(read=mess) other than you. |
For halvspack:
But you said about Kotrin, remember?
The reason you do not see professionalism in my post is because I see it (Kotrins behavior before and after being a Mod) as a bad thing and not a good thing. |
http://www.warriors-guild.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1059
I already read that after the first time you posted it. I think it brings up as many questions as it answers, most important of which to me is if you were in the right prior to all this and those who were against you in the worng, why have you taken to doing what they did to you. Either they were wrong then as you are now, or they were right then as you are now. |
for Halvspak:
Thats an easy answer to get there. They were wrong as he is now. lol
I dont see how you miss that out.
Reverse psychology, you know the post you have 'evaded' :P |
for Dan-Panic:
Im sorry but that is not reverse psychology that is a hypocrisy. |
for Halvspak:
Can you read Kotrin's mind ? I dont think so
So all in all you can only guess that Kotrin is acting like that cause he is like that and was abstening himself in the past.
I'm fed up of accusations based on guess. If we check that up Halvspak, what you say can be truth (hypocrisy) for a lot of people speaking up in the forums.
Wow, way to get a good forum experience and a loving community.
I think about 95% of us all should take some break off of the game or change their attitude. |
Another attempt to go off-topic :(
A few points about your off-site thread link Kotrin.
a) It might have more validity if you had not edited it adding you own changes to what was actually written before making you posts,
b) All it shows was me asking relevant questions about your actions which as always you avoided answering. I was not a moderator and have never abused my official position,
c) The rule breaks might have been relevant if they were actually rule breaks. You need to remember that Arctic created this thread because he considered moderators had abused their positions. A very SMALL part was because of the actions taken over my post which was not considered a rule break by him but it was also because of many other "events" some of which are covered elsewhere in this thread,
d) You keep saying my 3 day ban was because of a relapse but you know as well as I do that apart from 2 very minor bans in my first weeks of playing I had never been banned for breaking any forum rules (also detailed by me in a much earlier post.
e) Your whole post is not relevant to the subject of "Discussion polygon: LWM Staff - Moderators".
This has all been (in my opinion) a pointless couple of pages worth of off-topic posts which hide the very real and very relevant questions asked of Pang and others. It would appear though that these questions as well as the previous ones are not going to be answered which is why I suggested in a prior post that this thread should be closed. If no answers will be given then what is the point in continuing it? |
See Halvspak, we can consider DiN's post to be hypocrisy.
He only talks about questions asked to Pang, about deleted posts/threads
but aint some people asked questions for Queen_Amanda ?
Yes, they did, so in your world Halvspak, this is hypocrisy as much as Kotrin.
I hope you will understand exactly what I mean there :)
- Proverb of the day : One that is fast to scream for abuse is often one that do it when in position of power |
for Dan-Panic:
I sent you the definition of hypocrisy and and reverse psychology in a PM, please read it so you can stop making false comparisons. |
LoL, false comparisons ?
Even with the definition, I still think DiN didnt made a post of all honesty :)
Speaking of only half the truth is also hiding half of it. Which in my simple and humble opinion his half a lie :)
If you wanna be all 'honest, just and everything' DiN said in the past he was, why dont he says all the truth, all the time ?
What is it if thats not hypocrisy ?
Hiding facts is as bad as inventing ones, I think
Well at least, it is punishable in our world |
DEATHisNEAR, just in case you haven't noticed, you have lost any credibility you may had while draping yourself as the innocent victim. Your small a) to e) list is as worthless as any attempt to hide the plain truth exposed there ( http://www.warriors-guild.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1059 ).
As I told previously, I hold all PM conversation exposed there available to anyone upon request. Forum threads mentioned there have direct links to them. The rule broken was 4.2 and you know it. Arctic didn't create this thread not "he considered moderators had abused their positions". Please give the correct quite: because of "Multiple cases of Moderators abusing their powers brought to my attention" - post #1 - which is a polite way of reacting to the mail-bombing of his mailbox by YOU with various imaginary abuses (or more, situations you deliberately created).
So far, the only valid example of a blatant abuse of power is the one from Queen_Amanda, which you and other frequent posters here hilariously refuse to address.
There's a name for that: double standards.
'nuff said. |
Interesting post Kotrin. Rule 1.5 is suspended. 2.2 and 4.6 are not. I wonder when a mod will give you a ban for abuse. Mentally challenged is a term I would consider against forum rules.
The term "maze of lies" is also an interesting exercise in irony. |
for Barbarian-Fishy:
You can't really blame Kotrin, as no moderation has been made in this very thread :) |
@Dan-Panic. It harks back to consistency and what some have called hypocrisy.
It is unfortunate that Kotrin has felt that it is now alright to do what he previously criticised others for doing. He seems frustrated by what has happened, and has occaisionally lapsed in to bad behaviour.
The thing is his "righteous indignation" at the previous behaviour. Can he not see that they were frustrated at what they saw was heavy handed moderation and incorrect implementation of modding rules.
If Kotrin wants to be excused (and I will say, it's you, not Kotrin asking) then he has to excuse what he has called baiting that brought everything to this pass as he is doing similar bad behaviours. |
for Barbarian-Fishy:
I dont think Kotrin needs to be excused or even wants to be :) But Im not Kotrin, Im only guessing here :)
As for baiting, I guess some people are actually guilty of doing so, but then again, Im only guessing :)
So all in all, I dont see why Kotrin should be judged differently then all who have break rules in this thread, just to name one : Limustudotcom in post #61
Have a nice day |
all I can say is: if anyone from admins even try to read all this crap - he'll probably say - LMAO....
this was supposed to be constructive topic about improving our "service" (not game as Lexa titled) and it ended up in flamming all around...
LoS-WgW-EW-whatever..... like it matters for us....
pfff...
all you "constructive" players with loud mouths ask yourself - WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR THIS COMMUNITY? NOT WHAT HAS THIS COMMUNITY DONE FOR YOU!
over&out from me in this topic. ban me now whoever wants....
pfff |
Kotrin here, Kotrin there, I have to react..
The basic facts: Kotrin stepped out from being a mod, because some members of some clan were constantly abusing forum, pushing the rules with a single objective, push the line so far that a mod makes a mistake so they could complain. Awesome, to start a private conversation only to resend it to Arctic and clanmates. To scream and shout about abuse and then LIE in C&A report about Faithbringer(ex-mod) in order to harm his reputation and get him penalised.
Plotting behind the curtain while claiming freedom of speech and best intentions, being a vulgar grunt, lie, abuse the forum rules is the most productive and best way to improve every community. You know what? Give every witch hunter a block button, that would do the trick.
Well, some of us remember the dark ages, dark because admins decided to turn off their lights for a while. Only thing keeping this community together were few mods with promises of hope.
Kotrin, Zyanya, Shebali, Faithbringer, Skunder, Takesister and Pang were a shining example, were those who lead this community for months. Everyone who tries to call these people names and put them into one sack with some lousy no-good cheaters will read about him/herself something against the forum rules.
(I have missed a few mod`s names, simply because list is too long and these names somehow sound special in my head, don`t take it personally).
Remember what Kotrin did. |
So far, the only valid example of a blatant abuse of power is the one from Queen_Amanda, which you and other frequent posters here hilariously refuse to address.
And they still continue to ignore it lol |
I would like to retract a slightly angry comment I made earlier in this thread, I was angry and tired, and generally not in a very good mood. For now I wish to get more information on the subject before I make rash comments.
My apologies QA |
Mentally challenged is a term I would consider against forum rules.
The term "maze of lies" is also an interesting exercise in irony.
Lordswm forum rules dont apply on external sites, right? |
