| Author | [Mirror] Lords&Heroes. FSP gap. |
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https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1917224&page=5#30056238
Well,Lords, time is here – fsp gaps useless and irrational destroy our game. It seriously interfere game design and activity. I suggest to discuss ways to remove this problem and mechanism of solution same problems in the future.
Purpose: equal opportunities ru and com players.
We have marker – “Escaped death during the volcanic eruption”
We have mechanism and practice of fcp bonus by condition
So, lets talk about inception )
For example,
Give 20% bonus of fcl in combats to every Lord marked with “Escaped death during the volcanic eruption” until average fcl of Lords on lvl be the same of Heroes.
Suggest ur alternatives and leave here ur opinions.
P/S/
Mirror – there is same theme on ru forum.
Thank you. ) |
| Admins handled it already, aren't they? It was the recent change related to the average fsp per battle level, so your theme is meaningless. |
for DrunkVision:
That change affects too few people. It fixes very big gaps, but the big gaps not. Especially at high levels. |
ParaLeul,
lol, we did have very few high-levels at .com and it didn't change at all. |
Admins handled it already, aren't they? It was the recent change related to the average fsp per battle level, so your theme is meaningless.
That would only kick in for the benefit of a COM-player, if the average of RU is 20 times higher than COM.
Do you really want to tell us, that the gap is so high? |
for DrunkVision:
This FSP-average-making thingy is useless, at first, on 7th (or 6th or whatever it was) January admins made it more or less adequate, then overpowered builds started to cry about it (and, actually, it's ok, because it was unfair) and then admins nerfed that penalty to almost nothing, so overpowered builds will stay overpowered for eternity, because this "penalty" isn't enough to even bring them to that "average" due to xp/fsp ratio, because expophobiacs will always do the best ever xp/fsp fights and the penalty is too small to change anything. Moreover, underpowered builds will never be average, because the "floor" (sorry for bad English) of that gap is so small, that they will always be weaklings as they were before.
So... actually admins changed nothing.
Long story short:
The change to XP is so small, that tendency of bringing overpowered characters to average will be infinite and they never be average, even in 100500 years. |
For example,
Give 20% bonus of fsp in combats to every Lord marked with “Escaped death during the volcanic eruption” until average fsp of Lords on lvl be the same of Heroes.
I like this idea, even 10% would be good enough. |
Arghmage,
Well, actually 2 times is enough to get a lot of extra fsp. |
Arghmage,
Well, actually 2 times is enough to get a lot of extra fsp.
Sorry, for my miscalculation. In fact it didn't matter what FPS the COM player has, since there is no way that they will lower the average so low that an average RU player has any problem with that.
Since there are around 20 times more RU player, having 50% less FPS for a COM player would never activate the 1,6 FPS limit for the RU players.
Even if an average RU-player would have 1 million FPS and a COM-player has zero: (Very extreme example, but this is true for every number.)
20RU*1 Million FPS + 1COM*0= 20 millions (FPS together)
20 millions / 21 = 0.952 million (Average FPS)
0.952 millions * 1.6 = 1.5232 million
So there is no danger for the 1 million FPS RU that the 0 FPS COM will never catch up. They will never hit the 1.6 of average (1.5232 million) at all. |
For example,
Give 20% bonus of fcl in combats to every Lord marked with “Escaped death during the volcanic eruption” until average fcl of Lords on lvl be the same of Heroes.
I agree
+1 |
For my lvl 14 i have more then 1000fsp less then average ru players. All pvp battles are hard. And pls dont say about potion of skill its not a good way.
So im in +1. |
I agree
+1 |
I played 3 CG duels today.
All times I losed. Why?
Maybe the answer is here:
My exp/fsp: 4568
1st opponent's exp/fsp: 2035 (OMG it's more than double of mine!!!)
2nd opponent's exp/fsp: 2605
3rd opponent's exp/fsp: 2820
I hope we will get solution or we will lose a lot. I don't want free fsp, but something what help us. |
For my lvl 14 i have more then 1000fsp less then average ru players.
Average is not means all. You can find a lot of ru players with less fsp comparing with your one. For example, http://www.heroeswm.ru/pl_info.php?id=1061004. You can find hundreds of players with close fps. The conclusion is the following: we can compare only the average values. Where comparison of average fsp for com and ru players?
I hope we will get solution or we will lose a lot. I don't want free fsp, but something what help us.
It is not a secret that only the best players play in CG. This is the answer on your question. But thete is a huge difference in fsp between different ru players, and probably between different com players too. Therefore, I suppose that it's not a problem of ru and com. This is a general problem for all players, and admins are trying to solve it, as Arctic described here https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1933652&page=0#30030430. |
| the gap is high... I renctly faced a lv 13 elf that was less then a million exp ahead of me but Had a whopping 2000 more fsp then I have... Is that too small of a gap? |
Salut, Lords and Ladies.
1. +10%, +20% or +50% - bonus chosen will determine speed of making equal AFSP Lords&Heroes. Higher rate = higher motivation for active players and less bonuses to passive players. +50% will give great ability to very active players, +10% - to all just active players.
Its just priority of motivation
2. Sad/good news/
95% of Heroes are very selfish..
On the other hand,5% adequate and self-sufficient Heroes support this idea |
Give 20% bonus of fcl in combats to every Lord marked with “Escaped death during the volcanic eruption” until average fcl of Lords on lvl be the same of Heroes.
Sounds very good. Any equalization mechanism would work for me. Just do something about it. |
| I just checked the russian forum about this subject, but they call us noobs, say its our own fault and then they link to ehtereality character and say pumping is not needed.... |
they
just 95% )
we have joke that 95% of people are idiots so nvm them %) |
and what makes you think admins will listen to us?
They ve almost never done that so far |
