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Author[Mirror] Lords&Heroes. FSP gap.
It is really disgusting to see the .com players moaning, lamenting etc. about fsp. I was witness that there was no CG in com. What prevented you from that at .com?
Now you are lamenting about bad fsp ratio. Of course, you compare with the best (monsters, terminators, mutants) - only 1% of players.
But why don't you compare youselves with 90% of the ru-server? They have the same fsp or even less.
Don't moan and start accumulating fsp (if you think it's your only problem). You have many easy hunts and MGs, besides thiefs and rangers make good fsp.
You have advantage with ru-players who have already made use of easy hunt and MG.
Player banned by moderator Lord SV22 until 2013-02-05 11:59:41 // Additional characters are not allowed to post in main forums.
@141

well said
Fell free to take or modify this "mini" study but if you do this in any Combat Level and add as many players as you want results will be very similar.

You should take into consideration the battle count and win/lose ratio and guild statistics as well. Looking at FSP alone will open up new imbalances. Consider these two players:

(Alice) https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=968859
(Bob) https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4560952

Alice is a .ru native and the top Necro for FSP at CL 13 with 6882.73 FSP. Bob is from .com with 3187.17 FSP on Necro faction. When it comes to FSP, clearly, Alice is the leader but when it comes to HG points Bob wins. Of course, HG levels do not give as much advantage as faction skill levels but considering that the new mechanic now "rewards" you with more XP the more FSP you already have, Alice's FSP advantage may not be maintainable in the long run while Bob's HG point advantage can be maintained forever. The new mechanic assures that Bob will get better FSP/XP ratio in all events and battles from now on. Conclusion: we have the mechanics on our side to close the FSP gap but they don't have any help to close the HG and MG gap.

Maybe not give free fsp, but I think a good solution could be deduct all those extra experience points we got in .com

Recalculation of TG battles since last Valentine will do just fine.
"I was witness that there was no CG in com. What prevented you from that at .com?"

peak 500 online/ 15 levels = 33 players/ 24 hours = 1.4 cg players/ hr
peak 500 online/ 15 levels = 33 players/ 24 hours = 1.4 cg players/ hr
THose who played CG in .com - play CG in .ru. THose who didn't - don't do it in .ru but are lamenting about fsp.
I played 6 CG dueld and lost only one here. I have other goals than CG at the moment, but what i liked in .com was that almost nobody lamented and was begging in admins smth. Here you are the same as most .ru players. You want "free ride" (khalyava in Russian).
Stay as you were in .com and prove that you are better than those players from .ru if not on the nearest tournaments or events than in the longer run (4-6 months). Take your chance: fight but don't lament!
Player banned by moderator Lord SV22 until 2013-02-05 12:04:29 // Additional characters are not allowed to post in main forums.
wrong- i play cg here but quit in .com and i lament fsp imbalance i dont care about prove better- player is player but unequal is fact
Finally Minor Tournie...

Im so excited and will definitely have fun playing this long-awaited tournie... we are about to find out who are the best dueler in each combat level.

Im so looking forward to the fsl of top 50 winners for each combat level (but especially at my combat level 13).

We are about to confirm what fsl can do to competitive PvPers and what our BEST .com players will achieve (at combat level 13, our best players have FSL 9).
FSL 6 dwarf vs FSL 10 dwarf with upgrades => zero chances for me to win:
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?lt=-1&warid=511061063
@Sir Morphius: You probably would have done better with choosing your main faction...
i think he joined for the fsp....
I mean that is the only reason to join, since the chance for us to end in top3 is close to 0.
for Nutella:
i think he joined for the fsp....

Exactly, I joined for FSP.
But the FPS gap is so huge, I could not even kill 50% of his army... :)))
Lol thought I would join some minor for fsp and exp.

Oponnents have Elf: 9 (3923.31) +1376.7 at CL12.
Well, I'm only at 2300 :).
Topic FSP gap:

minor tournament [level 14]:

me: wiz faction 9 (.com player)

against: necro faction 10 (.ru player)

https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=511116245

do not complain about their fsp, beat 'em up. : )

.com players are bursting for more action :) (quote: turitas)
... and he already won against 2 level 9 .ru-wizards (watch his combatlog).

.com players are bursting for more action :) (quote: turitas)
i won faction 4 necro with 0 faction dark demon........ brain better than skill points
Player banned by moderator Elrond until 2013-02-06 12:39:41 // 4.2.1. Using long strings in thread title and message is forbidden (1 min warning)
this is what i meant ; )
just because you were a bit lucky in two battles doesnt mean the massive fsp gap magically disappeared.
Just fought a level 14 wiz with over 10k fsp. More than double what I have. =\
Would anyone like some cheese with their whine?

In the minor tournament it has not been a major issue. Yes I have a faction potion, but that will always leave me disadvantaged by 1 faction level anyway. With a little bit of effort, some of the battles have been perfectly fine and enjoyable. (Did get slaughtered by a FL10 elf with 15% Wizzy resist though)... But at the end of the day, too many people are focusing on the extreme examples. You are starting to sound like the Russians complaining about Ethereality's fsp! ;)

I am below average fsp now and was just an average player on .com in terms of fsp/exp ratio. However, I am not yet 10% through this level. Towards the middle I should be reaching the average and by the end I should be a little above average for level 14. Sure you may never get to be the huge exception at the top of the level. What can I say to that? Tough. :p
With a little bit of effort, some of the battles have been perfectly fine and enjoyable.
I agree, especially for wiz, which is op against high def factions (knights - which are a lot, and dwarves), even if they have DU.
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