| Author | [Mirror] Lords&Heroes. FSP gap. |
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will listen to us
cause its clear problem/ we need just access to explain this problem and its priority
1st Adme read forum
2nd Arctic? %) |
| well im playing cg batles mostly an i have OP dark demon. ratio is only 5 wins of 12 battles. in com i had a better ratio with simple demon becouse i battled agains equal players but here on ru are a lot of terminators |
Anyone who is a level camper, be it .ru or .com, have no care for even fights. They rort the rules to try to get a benefit. Ethereality being the most extreme example.
They .ru level campers will squeal like stuck pigs about anything that will drop their advantage. .ru is bigger with more players, so their whining will drown out any reasonable suggestion. Good luck trying though. I hope I'm wrong. |
I just checked the russian forum about this subject, but they call us noobs, say its our own fault and then they link to ehtereality character and say pumping is not needed....
Our thief have given worse ratio than them (Same battle worse ratio)
They had favourable event with fsp as well.
The compensation the other day +20% fsp was very strange for most .com players we are simply not used to it.
If they call us lazy they have missed the point. If they feel honour and any sense of satisfaction in beating people who have one arm tied behind their back then good for them I would not see the big satisfaction in it.
This need to be fixed, but doubt it will. I will just see it as I have high difficult setting while they have low. I will try to win what I can and be proud the times it succeed. |
+1
1 day was too short for higher lvl players. So how about smthing that wld last 2 wekk or a month. And the % depends on combact level, not 20or 10% for all |
For my lvl 14 i have more then 1000fsp less then average ru players
And i checked some players which have 2000-2500 more fsp than me
sure they are some ru players with same fsp but thats because they play a lot of hunts only which give worst exp/fsp ratio
but i haven't so i should have at LEAST 2k more fsp |
Jonny again is trying to gain popularity.
well ofcourse it should be done. though he is also interested in that to raise a plank after which characters gain aditional XP
+1 though i don't like when good ideas are raised by those who does not deserve respect |
I guess that the official response to the fsp gap is the formula presented by Arctic, thus suggesting we won't get anything more.
That's quite a shame; kind of killing PvP because the gap is hudge indeed, as stated by others before me. |
| I love everything about the merge, but the fsp gap. I was a level camper on .com and had a high FSP for my level. I was constantly calculating the fsp/xp ratio on different combats and only doing them only if they had a good ratio. I went through survival tourney records at lvl 11 and looked at the FSP each had. I was in the top 10-20% on .com and I worked hard for it. On .ru I have been thrust into the bottom 10-20% comparing to .ru pre-merge accounts. I feel like I have been punched in the gut. I have been tempted to start over at level 1 with a new account so I can be on a level playing field but the thought of doing that after playing this account for 4 years makes me sick. I wont quit playing the game over this, but some of my friend are thinking about it. If they quit then the game will be less fun for me as well. I love this game! Admins, if you there and listening please do something to balance this. |
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What I keep hearing are that the .ru players with high fsp put a lot of time, effort and money into achieving this.
What they do not seem to understand is that the people on .com who had a high relative fsp put exactly the same time, effort and money into it.
Obviously both servers also have people who rushed through the levels.
As I see it the only fair way would be to give everyone a one-off percentage increase.
This would make the top group the same as their counterparts on .ru
This would make those with medium fsp the same as as their counterparts on .ru
This would make those with low fsp the same as their counterparts on .ru
When I was level 13 I looked at .ru players with the same, +/- 50,000 xp, as I had and worked out I would need ~42% - 46% increase so I could fight on an equal standing.
As I saw in my many auto battles without this or similar I will effectively be excluded from PvP combats or events unless I do it just for fun and accept my losses or I only fight other ex .com players. Neither of these options help with integrating the two player bases together and will always leave us as second class citizens of this Empire. |
cleaned version as moderator requested:p
fsp is over rated.. dont do gc btls its only place where you are gonna get whacked without recistances.. just look on group btls for min oa/ weak players to hit with more arts.
i never calculated my fsp or any guild lvls needed, as result might be shit character in some nerds eyes due to fact i lag 3 precent on dmg and 2% on intiative killing my chances of winning for sure. atleast ha fun playing without calculator:) nothink agaisnt lvl campers its their fun sure but i think there is better games to try make that perfect char than lwms fsp ratios.
And lol sven thats nothink new about russians every think they aint personally gaining somethink is a teddy like think and those who benefit about it are wrong and they should be hugged until they puke. i do think com players some kind of boost for a short amount of time not until hole com hits avg becose it means the most playings are gonna go over the russian in 5-10 years after the last ones finaly grap their share to reach avg fsp to table and tbh 20 precent sound way too big boost, would make upraging factions from zero too easy in my opinion.. |
Can we just cut back on sarcasm and self-pity and actually try to come up with a rational appeal? At least try to hide the "rustling of jimmies" from the .ru board comments. We just got here and it is a completely different world from .com. Even enrolling is a bloody deathmatch of typing and copypasting skills. That should give you an idea of the number of competitive players. Complaining about the "mutants" will not get us anywhere because there are a legion of Russian players who came before us (they signed up here) who are also below average and have no hope against those big players. Those below average Russian players probably outnumber the whole of .com population and they are not getting any special treatment from the admins. Waving the .com flag and demanding "equality", while it does have a bit of sense in it, will only make us sound like spoiled children. To me, anyway. When it has been a month and we are still unable to adapt, then maybe we can start complaining. Personally, I would give myself three months to prepare for my first CG fight here.
Also, if you want to fix the FSP "problem", try making it a .ru problem instead of focusing only on .com. Maybe the admins will listen. How about FSP bonus to everyone (.ru and .com) who have average or less than average FSP? FSP bonuses inversely proportional to current FSP total regardless of native server? Try to get creative... |
+1 Grusharaburas
Brave warrior |
It seems to me that if ru players have less than average fsp its not because they have not had the opportunities to gain much more fsp through the special tournaments and events. So why should they be considered for fsp balance?
I must assume its because their style play for leveling up fast as some .com players have done also to all of those players getting the same fsp bonus is unfair. When you play this style you get the rewards of level fast but a much weaker player and that's how it should stay for you chose this.
Now to those of us that been playing a long time and put much time, effort, and money in the game. We have been thrust into a unfair playing field no doubt and more a fsp balance should be done if we are to be able to play pvp or group battles and have fun. |
| Bottom line is that .Ru has had much much greater opportunities than .com. Many events that give great fsp and many days and potions that give bonus fsp. If you think 1 level of faction point is no big deal then you are mistaken. Try having equal Ap and fighting a similar army (Necro vs Necro or Demon vs Demon) and be faction level 7 instead of 8. As long as neither player makes any major mistakes then the guy with higher faction level wins. |
Now to those of us that been playing a long time and put much time, effort, and money in the game. We have been thrust into a unfair playing field no doubt and more a fsp balance should be done if we are to be able to play pvp or group battles and have fun.
For a .com player, you were levelling up too fast yourself...
Your XP: 13362408;
Your FSP: 2.9 k;
My XP: 5413508;
My FSP: 2.8 k;
I don't know about money but it does not look like you put enough time and effort on your toon, man. Now compare yourself to another .com player:
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_info.php?id=4858519
That dude have a higher player id than you do. He did not have same old player benefits like old school HG and TG like me. And yet he still managed to get awesome stats (4.1 k FSP, higher than .ru average for CL 13 which is 3713 FSP). Why are you not as strong as him? How do you explain that? This is your problem: admins see players using an excuse to get free FSP. Being from .com is inconsequential. You could have been stronger than you are right now if you stayed in .com. There was plenty of opportunity there but only a few .com players saw it.
Bottom line is that .Ru has had much much greater opportunities than .com.
.com had plenty of opportunities as well. It was a different kind of opportunity but like they say, the grass is always greener on the other side... |
.com had plenty of opportunities as well. It was a different kind of opportunity but like they say, the grass is always greener on the other side...
Thats a silly thing to say. For every 1 event .com had that gave a good
fsp/ratio .Ru had 10 events that gave a good fsp ratio. |
If nothing else, there is potion in the artifact shop:
https://www.lordswm.com/art_info.php?id=skill_drink |
If nothing else, there is potion in the artifact shop:
Good point. I had forgotten about that. It would be worth it to drink that for a minor tourney. |
